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Posted: 8/29/2002 3:58:01 AM EDT
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My Dept. just issued me an AR15-A3. They advised us not to use Break Free because it contains silicone. They said if it gets in the barrel, it takes about 10,000 rounds to get rid of it. Is this true? I thought the military was still using this stuff. Thanks Derek |
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Hmmmmmmmm........CLP=Clean Lubricate Protect. Seeing as this product is used by thousands of AR-15 owners and if I recall is standard issue for the US armed forces, I am dubious about the assertion that it would be inappropriate for use in your weapon. I have used this product exclusively in my rifles with no problem for years. Regards, Gary |
| CLP has been used for years with no adverse effects. As an all in one solution, there's hardly anything out there that will beat it. I'd go with the people who have experience with the M16/AR-15 (Military, civilian shooters and competitors) over your dept. Get a gallon and put it in the Arms Room. |
| Well, I haven't tried it yet, but I've been hearing some excellent reports about Firepower FP-10. If you hit their site, George will send you a free sample in a 1oz bottle and you don't even have to pay shipping. |
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Breakfree CLP contain 1% Teflon by weight, not silicone. I think the person who told you this story maybe confusing the issue with a rumor that Teflon in Breakfree will turn to hydrofluoric acid at very high temperature, thus when exposed to moisture (from contact with mositure or oxygen), it may cause pitting in barrels. Hydrofluoric acid is very harsh; nonetheless, I don't buy this rumor, as any trace of oxygen would be expelled from the barrel after the round goes BANG. Unless there is scientific proof, I'll keep using Breakfree. Edit to add: The forumla in Remoil CLP or Royco CLP does not contain Teflon. |
| I use Break Free on all my rifles and pistols. Works great. Check this out. www.shotgunreport.com/Articles/BreakFree.html |
| I just noticed Red'Leg's post regarding Firepower FP-10 and thought I would add that FP-10 is a CLP, just not Breakfree brand. It contains no teflon. I've been using it for about a year now and I love the stuff. The only firearm I have that gets anything else is my M1 Garand, which still gets Lubriplate 130A in the appropriate places.-TR |
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all branches of the military and federal law enforcement dropped CLP after extensive tests and went to Militec..a pure synthetic it works and takes very little product. Their website is www.militec1.com and features announcement the TSA sky marshalls just joined the groups using it. |
| I too use FP-10 with excellent results. I've been using it in my issue S&W 5906 for over a year with excellent results and in my CAR-15 for about 8 mos. with excellent results. I also use FP-10 on my other weapons with excellent results. With my 5906 I usually put about 300 rnds through it a week and at the end of each session, there is still lube there. I usually only put about 80-100 rnds a week thru the AR because our range doesn't give out .223 as much as 9mm for practice. All in all, I have given away my breakfree and strictly only use FP-10 for all my cleaning needs. |
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For an interesting article on MPC's Firepower FP-10, try this link: www.bwof.com/reliabfp10.html Rick  |
Sure for an all in one solution. But, is that the best way to do it?? Using all in one? I don't think so.. :) Use a cleaner and a lube, you'll get much better results.. Such as, Mpro7 cleaner, and Militec Lube/Metal conditioner.. |
| So does this Militec 1 lube REALLY "bond" to the metal? Does it really make cleaning easier? Does it really outlast other lubes? I have ordered some to try. If it works as advertised I will be a happy shooter!!!!!! And if the military is starting to use this stuff as advertised what are they now using for the cleaning aspect of gun care? |
Yes, it is that good. And yes, the military is using it now. I recently switched myself, before careful research and advice from those using it. :) Oh, one other thing, for it to bond properly you have to remove all traces of previous lubes/cleaners.. |
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Great! Thanks for the info. I have only heard good news about this stuff. They are offering free samples on their website(www.militec1.com) and their sending me one. Looking forward to it. What would you use to remove previous clean/lube products before applying it? I have been using a CLP(for all around) and that obviously won't do it. Wonder what the Military is using? Thanks for the help!!!-Horik |
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Yes, I noticed the smell is not as nice. Also noticed it is almost clear...not the white cloudy stuff from the past (Even after shaking it up). Hell may even be a bit thinner. Has anyone else noticed this? This is not a slam...it does seem to work as good as the old stuff. Randy |
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| The new Break Free seems thinner and doesnt have that white solid on the bottles bottom if you dont use it for awhile... I started using ballistol www.ballistol.com. It works GOOODD; however it stinks like a dirty locker room. So I went with the "Militech" recommendations and ordered me a discount bottle...we shall see |
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