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9/14/2014 6:26:46 PM EDT
While I was shooting last week  my gun jammed and I quickly cleared and reloaded.  I then realized I couldn't get my next round into the chamber. It seems the back part of the casing was ripped off and the front part is now jammed in the barrel. What would cause this to happen and how do I get it out?
9/14/2014 6:31:55 PM EDT
[#1]
lemme guess, steel cased ammo?
9/14/2014 6:41:18 PM EDT
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I've had two case head separations in matches. Neither were steel. Both were Lake City. My match rifle has never seen steel. Some times, brass just fails.

A broken shell extractor will grab it. A rod with a brush is how I got the one where I had forgotten my shell extractor.
9/14/2014 6:41:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Over gassed gun can cause this.  Was the problem in my case.  Could be a different cause in your case.



A small tool called 'broken case extractor' will remove the broken case.  I got one and had to use it several times before I figured out why they were breaking.
9/14/2014 6:50:21 PM EDT
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Whose "reloads" were you shooting?

You need a universal separated-case extractor.

Chamber brush with big nylon brush.

Ram it in, and rip it out.

9/14/2014 7:27:34 PM EDT
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Whose "reloads" were you shooting?

You need a universal separated-case extractor.

Chamber brush with big nylon brush.

Ram it in, and rip it out.

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Does that really work?  How about a brass brush?
9/15/2014 12:51:16 AM EDT
[#6]
30 cal brass brush works just fine with a 223 case (perfect size to pull back into the split case so the bristles are the a good angle to get a good bite on the inside of the case).
Note, for 308 split cases, I use a 45 cal brass brush instead.


Single one piece cleaning rod, drop it down the muzzle until the end of the cleaning rod is out the back of the receiver, install a 30 cal brass brush on the cleaning rod, pull the cleaning rod back into the case until you have the brass brush up against the case neck (brass bristles now angled toward the back of the receiver in the case to get a good bite on the inside walls of the split case, then give the handle of the cleaning brush a hard blow to drove the rod/bush/split case out the the chamber/ back of the receiver.


As for the  brass brush now stuck inside the case, it's pretty much toasted at this point (plus a PITA to get out of the split case), so i just end up spinning the brush and split case off the cleaning rod, and throwing the two away.


Note: split case extractor  works well too, but since I always have a single piece cleaning rod with me (in the gun  case) as well as extra cleaning brushes in my carry case (223 through 45 in the case as well), it just easy to use the cleaning brush and brush, instead of having to lug a bunch of split case extractors that are caliber specific instead.
9/15/2014 5:13:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Wasn't a reload. Cant remember exactly which brand but I think it was either federal american eagle or Remington 223. I ordered the CJ weapons extractor. Hopefully i can get it out.

Anyone else have ideas as to the cause? Too much headspace? Should I look into a new BCG?
9/15/2014 8:34:45 AM EDT
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Does that really work?  How about a brass brush?
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Never had a brass case that it didn't work on.
(never tried it on steel - never saw a steel separation, only ripped steel rims)

Mine has a PLASTIC brush, and it rides in the back pocket of my shooting jacket at all times.
Has worked many times.
9/15/2014 9:32:27 PM EDT
[#9]
In Hatcher's Notebook he stated, iirc, that you could often successfuly remedy this problem by loading an empty case in behind the broken one, jamming the empty brass case neck into the case neck, and then drawing it out.  I have never tried this. I know he wasn't talking about Ar15s, but who knows?
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