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Posted: 5/3/2012 6:01:03 AM EDT
Was sighting in my dad's Bushmaster M4 this past weekend. Fired several FMJ rounds no problem and got irons close. Asked him to give me a mag of what he uses for self defense. I, unfotunately, didn't pay enough attention to the round other than it was a soft point round and the casing had LC 07 NATO cross on it. I thought it funny as I'd never seen a soft point round in LC brass. Fired the first round and it felt/sounded normal. Long story short that round seperated and front 3/4 is jammed up in the chamber. Tried bore brush and 30 cal bore brush with no luck. Tried both different broken shell extractors brownells sells and nothing. Found out it's some bubba reloads his boss got him and other coworkers. Any ideas?
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| Holy shit, either that is a large rifle primer or that thing was waayyyy overpressure. Only thought I have is to toss the whole thing in the freezer then try again. Or compressed "air" in the can upside down, in the chamber. Freeze the brass and then try to pull it. Wear gloves and glasses as that shit will "freezer" burn you fast. |
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Steel 30 chamber brush should work.
Just drop the cleaning rod down from the muzzle, attach the brush to the cleaning rod ones the tip is out the back side of the receiver , then pull back on the cleaning rod handle until the bristles are in the inside of the remaining case. From, don't screw around, give the cleaning handle a good pop so the angled bristles get a good bite into the remaining brass case to embed into the inside of the case, and shove the spent case remains out out with the brush when it's drive out the back side of the receiver/chamber. And never shoot reloads that you have not reloaded yourself!!!!!! Looking at the flattened primer of the spent case, hot is a under statement, and these where loaded to proof load pressures. 
Count yourself lucky since if the case would have let go at the case webbing instead, chances are you would be replacing a receiver when the pressure escaped out the barrel breach and mushroomed out the mag well of the receiver as it blew the mag out as well. |
| I had a 30-30 do that once and for the same reason. I never shoot someone else's reloads now. I couldn't get that case out at all. I finally got a tap that fit the case ID and got a bite on inside of the case. I then was able to tap the case out of the chamber from the bore end with a cleaning rod. Just be very careful not to mar the chamber. PK |
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Holy cow you are lucky you didn't destroy the rifle and injure yourself.
Bubba reloads! That guy is a moron and should not be around guns. Make sure you destroy all that ammo. If you don't have a kinectic bullet puller then just grab the bullets with a pliers and pull the bullets, pour out the powder. Also let Bubba know he's liable to kill somebody and have him destroy any of these loads he may have. And as stated above, never shoot this guys reloads again. He clearly doesn't know what he's doing. |
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If the broken shell extractors are not grabbing the front piece of the broken casing, then you can try feeding another casing behind it and it may wedge itself inside what is left of the broken case, then when you manually cycle the charging handle rearward it will extract both together.
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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There are broken shell extractors for this exact reason. If your other methods don't work, buy a 223 broken shell extractor, or take the upper to a smith who has one in order to get the rest of the cartridge case out of the chamber. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/public/BEXLs2340wIxmWjITMLQake71F-l1_i-CRoFXW2Pkdj-9XaFlb0xUvmIQ0kIRlAPow0E-thEWk7Rr5BcFGOJyjnJ9U94P-8DyOXkrfMH9SdXl4Ytza5Dp3l3r0sowwaIdJxHueYFsHxI-a3c6PWAK6R6wWOTVaXIKLva-Q Reading is fundamental Finally got it out. Ended up with a real small flat head screwdriver that was about 14" long. Tapped the flat head in about 1/8" of the casing. Then a slight twist of the screwdriver and the casing began to rotate in the chamber. Then used the broken shell extractor to get it out. |
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