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11/2/2011 5:31:17 PM EDT
Ar-15 flat top reciever.  Has a nikon m305 scope mount and a mid grade x14 scope.  I laser boresighted in the rifle at 25 yards, moved out to 50 yards and put it on target and sht a nice tight groop.  I then moved back to 100 yards and shot about four inches high.  Ok, I started to ,ake the adjustment on the scope, but after six clicks I was at the bottom of being able to adjust the scope.  I was still high and could not adjust the scope.  What's the deal, bad scope?  Any help would be great.


Thanks,
Peter
11/2/2011 6:49:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Try moving back to the Optics (correct) forum
11/3/2011 4:40:11 AM EDT
[#2]
As your sure that you where adjusting the elevation dial in the right direction?

If yes, then either the mount is not correct, or the barrel or flat top on the receiver is not indexed correctly with the center line of the receiver.
11/3/2011 8:06:47 AM EDT
[#3]
got to be your mounting hardware of maybe your scope is to far forward and not level... Post a Pic maybe its something obvious..
11/3/2011 8:59:13 AM EDT
[#4]
I will see if I can get a picture tonight.  The Nikon scope mount m233 is a one piece mount for picatini rails.  It has a built in MOA of 20.  Could that be my culprit?
11/3/2011 9:05:29 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I will see if I can get a picture tonight.  The Nikon scope mount m233 is a one piece mount for picatini rails.  It has a built in MOA of 20.  Could that be my culprit?


Yes . Unless you are shooting out beyound 300-400yds, you don't need the 20 MOA. 20 MOA is 20" at 100yds. You won't see a 20" drop until you get to 300 yds +/- depending on velocity and bullet weight.
11/4/2011 7:36:29 AM EDT
[#6]
I can't help you with your scope reticle not having any movement left in it, but if I'm understanding you correctly a 25 yard zero SHOULD be several inches high at 100 yards.  That's how it gets back on target at 250 to 300 yards.   At 100 yards a 25 yard zero is on its way up in its curve.

A 50 yard zero may work better for you, but it will also be a little high at 100 yards just not by as much.
11/4/2011 7:45:53 AM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


I can't help you with your scope reticle not having any movement left in it, but if I'm understanding you correctly a 25 yard zero SHOULD be several inches high at 100 yards.  That's how it gets back on target at 250 to 300 yards.   At 100 yards a 25 yard zero is on its way up in its curve.



A 50 yard zero may work better for you, but it will also be a little high at 100 yards just not by as much.


This^



Might want to read this.



 
11/4/2011 7:50:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Yes.  Your 20 MOA base is the culprit.  Don't need a 20 MOA base on an AR.  That's something you would put on a precision rifle to reach out past 1000 yards with a 308.

A 25 yard zero, with optics and your AR should be roughly a 300 yard zero.

We teach all this stuff at Appleseed.  If you get a chance, get to one near you.   http://www.appleseedinfo.org

-David
Edgewood, NM
11/4/2011 4:17:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Here's a comparison of the different zero's:

11/4/2011 6:46:05 PM EDT
[#10]


Parameters?  Velocity, bullet weight, sight height, elevation?

-David
11/5/2011 5:51:25 AM EDT
[#11]
Yes, I know it's fairly generic for comparison.    I stole it out of the thread about zeroing mentioned above.  I believe they were using standard factory 5.56 M193 & M855 ammo though with a standard AR and A2 sights.
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