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Posted: 2/1/2015 2:53:03 AM EDT
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I want to build a plinker . I have an Anderson lower and have been trying to decide on the rest of it.......I have made great progress . LOL
I want a flat top with a decent single stage trigger and lpk, a good six position buffer tube kit and stock, a 1-9 twist barrel because 55gr will be the main bullet weight ( cheap bulk stuff) and a free floated tube just because I like how they look and I don't really need all the bells and whistles and the old eyes kinda make open sights less fun to shoot. I do not want to spend a ton because all I want is a good plinker and a match grade rifle with all the high dollar parts would be overkill for it's purpose. Yes I know you get what you pay for but when it comes to AR's if it is mil spec is that not the standard or am I missing something. I know a few company's manufacture parts for just about everyone and the the put their name on it but I see so many little company's that have Life time warranty but have only been in business 5 years so go figure. Would I come out better just buying a complete upper for less than $375 ,adding it to the decent lower and start shooting or piece mill one together spend can little more money and go from there. BCG, barrels and such can add up and like I said it will be a plinker. What is a decent BCG and how much? Barrels ,in a bolt gun get a Green Mountain and your good to go .....AR's how much and what kind. Is one upper better than another for my needs. Any help and ideas will be greatly appreciated. I posted on another thread and kinda got the feeling from some that responded that I was not worthy of their immense knowledge because I asked about a few suppliers on the net that were not as well known or maybe never heard of.....my bad, I didn' t know I should know better . I am just a retired guy that likes to shoot. Any way it might have been they had a bad day who knows. Thanks for the help. |
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Welcome to the community. Alot of good folks here, some just start typing before the coffee machine sounds out. Haha. Have you checked BCM for complete uppers. They offer numerous configurations that vary greatly in price, but are all very high quality, and they come with a free bcg and muzzle device. A charging handle and sights are all thats needed and you're off to the races.
Another common trend here is getting an upper, etc, from Palmetto State Armory. Good luck with the search and post some picks when you're squared away. |
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Welcome to the club I just finished my first not long ago. For what you are looking for keep and eye on PSA lower build kits. They have several you can choose from. And have everything you need to finish the lower aside from a few basic tools. I assembled mine with only a hammer and a small punch on my living room floor. If you want a better " mil spec " trigger my understanding is ALG is a good clean trigger. I haven't tried one or a 2 stage yet. My gun goes bang with the psa trigger so I haven't seen the reason to spend the extra cash yet. For your upper yes I think you can build a better upper for less then 375 if you build it though you will need a few other tools torque wrench vice. Upper vice block or scraps of wood. Do you already have these tools if not do you want to purchase them? It will add to the cost of your build. Just something to consider. Torque wrench you can get as a free loaner tool from some auto parts stores. Or try Psa or BCM for complete uppers. AIM usually has stripped uppers at great prices. Also just saw anderson had a barrel on sale for 69 bucks. Is it a great barrel no but budget friendly yes. And you can always upgrade. Utg super slim pro is a great bang for the buck free float handguard IMO. Again I'm still new to ARs and these are just my opinions. And I hope I have not added to your confusion.
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I want to build a plinker . I have an Anderson lower and have been trying to decide on the rest of it.......I have made great progress . LOL I want a flat top with a decent single stage trigger and lpk, a good six position buffer tube kit and stock, a 1-9 twist barrel because 55gr will be the main bullet weight ( cheap bulk stuff) and a free floated tube just because I like how they look and I don't really need all the bells and whistles and the old eyes kinda make open sights less fun to shoot. I do not want to spend a ton because all I want is a good plinker and a match grade rifle with all the high dollar parts would be overkill for it's purpose. Yes I know you get what you pay for but when it comes to AR's if it is mil spec is that not the standard or am I missing something. I know a few company's manufacture parts for just about everyone and the the put their name on it but I see so many little company's that have Life time warranty but have only been in business 5 years so go figure. Would I come out better just buying a complete upper for less than $375 ,adding it to the decent lower and start shooting or piece mill one together spend can little more money and go from there. BCG, barrels and such can add up and like I said it will be a plinker.If your wanting going quality upper but inexpensive then Palmetto State Armory is your friend. They are also listed on AIM surpluses website. What is a decent BCG and how much? Barrels ,in a bolt gun get a Green Mountain and your good to go .....AR's how much and what kind. Is one upper better than another for my needs.Lots of good BCG out there most people suggest BCM as they set the standard but you can get a cheaper one around $100 as long as you buy it from a reputable dealer like AIM or PSA. Barrels can be confusing but you said you want a plinker so just get a inexpensive one. Any help and ideas will be greatly appreciated. I posted on another thread and kinda got the feeling from some that responded that I was not worthy of their immense knowledge because I asked about a few suppliers on the net that were not as well known or maybe never heard of.....my bad, I didn' t know I should know better . I am just a retired guy that likes to shoot. Any way it might have been they had a bad day who knows. Thanks for the help. Here are a few great sites to buy from. https://www.primaryarms.com http://www.aimsurplus.com http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/default.asp?m=0 http://www.rainierarms.com https://dsgarms.com |
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Welcome.
The route you go all depends on how much work you want to do & what tools you have or want to buy. To assemble an AR from scratch requires a few specialty tools & supplies. If you wish to build more, then it is a good investment. If you want to keep it simple then buying a complete upper & assembling a lower may be the way to go. You can assemble a lower with basic tools & a armorers wrench. Buy a good quality one & it will last. Then purchase a complete upper & just pin them together. Very little fuss & you will be out to the range the next day after your parts come in. Doubleshot offered some good places to buy from. In addition to his suggestions you can look through the industry section & go to individual websites to see what they offer. You said it will mostly be used for plinking. That's fine as AR's are very fun to shoot compared to high-powered bolt guns. Much less wear & tear on the shoulder. As I am sure you know, an accurate gun is more fun to shoot. So having an accurate AR will lend to you wanting to shoot it more & enjoy it more. It may be good for you go through the Pic Threads in the AR discuccion forums as you will see all kinds of different configurations. Pick & choose aspects you like & go from there. Here are a few links to some uppers to get you started. Add BCG & Charge handle & you are GTG. Aero is having a 12% off sale right now... This one is a stainless barreled upper in 223 wylde. Very accurate & will last a very long time. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=318 This is another good upper from them in 556 Nato http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/productdetail.aspx?pid=343 Here is the link to their lower recievers. http://aeroprecisionusa.com/aspx/store/listing.aspx?catid=1 If you are up to the task of assembling your lower then you can use any number of parts kits or individual components. If you want an inexpensive good quality trigger, I have been very pleased with the ALG ACT. ALG is a subsidiary of Geissele, a very well respected trigger manufacturer. Have any more questions, just ask. 
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Thank you so much for the info. I do have most of the stuff I will need to put one together since I tinker with bolt guns and 10/22's. I think I will just piece one together just to say I did it and if it shoots straight I can chirp a little and if not I can say it was my first AR build.. LOL
My only real concerns are head spacing and not knowing if the gas block is pinnedf or not.( I told ya this AR stuff is new to me.) In a bolt gun head space is a must for accuracy and the head space stuff to me is a little confusing on an AR. Thanks again. |
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You are welcome, Sir.
Ok, if you want to build the upper from scratch you can get the upper & lower from Aero or any other company you choose. Hand guards are abundant from makers such as MI, YHM, UTG Pro, Samson, etc. You can have gas blocks pinned if you want to go that route. Some are adamant about it, others just use set screw style blocks. For barrels the two chambers I would recommend is either 556 NATO or 223 Wylde. If I were looking to build an accurate shooter in that cartridge it would be a Wylde. The chamber has a broader shoulder & has variances in the leade & throat. It offers a tad more accuracy than the NATO chamber. I looked at GMR for you and it looks like they have one offering in 20" in a Wylde clambering. I will also recommend a company called ARP or ar15performance. They make exceptionally accurate barrels as well as strong bolts. I checked & they are out of barrels but one of their vendors, MDWS, has some of their barrels in stock. 16" ARP 223 Wylde I just saw they were OOS. I will contact him to see when he will be getting more in. If you get a ARP barrel/ Bolt combination you can rest assured it will headspace properly. They also carry high quality gas blocks & other components like uppers & gas tubes. He even carries Aero uppers. MDWS is a one stop shop to get everything you need. If they don't have it he can usually get it rather quickly. Hit their site & look around. Don't hesitate to hit Mark up. He is a great guy & will stand behind what he sells personally. He is a member here that goes by the name Homelandsoldier. The difference is a cheaper barrel will cost $100-125. A high quality barrel from ARP is around $200-225. If you tell him I sent you & ask nicely he may even lap the upper for you...
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Well, I appreciate the kind words, Sir. If I'd have seen your other post last week things would be a bit better for you.
I just spoke with Mark. He said he had a 20% off sale on all orders over $159 that ended last week. He got cleaned out & will be posting orders for more product but does not know when he will be getting more barrels in. ARP's are a bit of a commodity so they go quick. Not sure how big of a hurry you are in. |
| No hurry at all. As far as the Wylde chamber I am guessing it is the same concept as a Benz barrel in rimfire. ( tighter for accuracy but still used same ammo .) This is a project gun and I have decided to make it just that......a Bighurt AR !!!! LOL I doubt there will be a huge demand for them. |
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Here is a simplified explanation via Wiki
Shoot MDWS an email & he will be happy to keep you updated on product availability. |
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