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Posted: 8/4/2014 7:02:39 PM EDT
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I decided that my first custom built bayonet wasn't long enough to REALLY piss off the liberals, so I present Bayonet 2.0.
A 11.5" double edged blade. I cut up a donor bayonet and a U.S. M7 (for the mounting hardware) and here is the result... 
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Quoted: 14.5" with a Permanently attached Phantom flash suppressor. It would be as easy to make it for a 16" barrel. Quoted: Quoted: Is that a 14.5 or a 16 barrel, and if 16 how long is the grip of the bayonet. Btw looks good 14.5" with a Permanently attached Phantom flash suppressor. It would be as easy to make it for a 16" barrel. |
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More pictures of the how to version would be wonderful. Sorry, I didn't document the build but here is a more or less step by step... Remove the grips from the bayonet you are going to use (host) Cut the handle as far back as possible from the guard Remove the guard from the host and discard Set host aside Remove grips from U.S. M7 bayonet and cut bayonet bayonet CLOSE to guard (doesn't have to be real close) Remove guard and SAVE!!! Now, begin shaping the handle so it is the same size as the M7 handle (this is the metal under the grips) You need to shape the handle to where it will allow the the M7 guard will slide up to the blade but will fit fairly tightly. Once you have fitted the guard, you then need to determine the EXACT length the handle needs to be to fit correctly between the bayonet lug and the muzzle device. I attach the lug portion of the M7 and then hold the guard on the blade, slide it over the muzzle device and mark where to cut the handle to be welded. Then cut the handle of the bayonet (s) to where you are going to weld them. I try to have the weld at mid point so the heat is away from the blade and away from the springs on the lug attachment Slide the guard on and MAKE SURE it's oriented correctly. Then weld the two sections together. I use an Oxy Acetylene, if you have access to a MIG it would probably be better. Wrap the handle with your choice of Paracord. |
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Ok I bought a Swiss SIG Stgw57 Bayonet and a donor m7 bayonet. I just got them today and it may take a week or 2 before I can get to this project but it looks to be a rather straight forward transformation to the ar platform. The things that hopefully will make this easy. 1 the hand guard has a very similar sized hole for the flash hider and it looks like it is in the correct distance to mount without modification 2. the mount to the rifle removes easily and is threaded on 3 the threaded tang should make mounting the extension and ar mount straight forward (crosses fingers)
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I was thinking about getting one of those 16" reproduction M1 Bayonet's, and attempt to modify it to work with the AR15/M16 Bayonet Lug. I would end up with a bayonet that's longer then the 14.5" barrel (A2X pinned & welded) it would hang on. Probably be pretty heavy too. |
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I was thinking about getting one of those 16" reproduction M1 Bayonet's, and attempt to modify it to work with the AR15/M16 Bayonet Lug. I would end up with a bayonet that's longer then the 14.5" barrel (A2X pinned & welded) it would hang on. Probably be pretty heavy too. I have one, it would be a little much for the AR platform. One benefit of the bayonet I went with is it's fairly light. 
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Nice work, Pursuit. Its a little known fact that US Army bayonets, starting with the Krag rifle through the 10" M1 bayonet of WWII, were patterned after the Swiss models. The attachment hardware was different, but the blades, grips and guards are nearly identical. By the time US forces went to war in Korea, the brass had dropped the idea of a dedicated bayonet and substituted "bayonet-knife" designs.
An M16 with a 20" barrel actually has a pretty good reach for bayonet fightinhg, but suffers from a lack of a bayonet with a long, light blade like yours. Another little known fact is a Geneva Convention clause (the Law of Land Warfare) that prohibits bayonets with more than two sharpened edges. The Swiss preferred double edged bayonets, but for some reason did not require troopers to sharpen them. Current US forces however, insist on razor sharp bayonets, probably because of their primary use as belt knives. - CW |
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Nice work, Pursuit. Its a little known fact that US Army bayonets, starting with the Krag rifle through the 10" M1 bayonet of WWII, were patterned after the Swiss models. The attachment hardware was different, but the blades, grips and guards are nearly identical. By the time US forces went to war in Korea, the brass had dropped the idea of a dedicated bayonet and substituted "bayonet-knife" designs. An M16 with a 20" barrel actually has a pretty good reach for bayonet fightinhg, but suffers from a lack of a bayonet with a long, light blade like yours. Another little known fact is a Geneva Convention clause (the Law of Land Warfare) that prohibits bayonets with more than two sharpened edges. The Swiss preferred double edged bayonets, but for some reason did not require troopers to sharpen them. Current US forces however, insist on razor sharp bayonets, probably because of their primary use as belt knives. - CW Didn't know ANY of what you listed. Thanks for the information. Bayonet 1.0 was an FN 49 blade, double edged but NOT sharp. Bayonet 2.0 is a Swiss K31 bayonet blade and came VERY sharp
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Quoted:
Nice work, Pursuit. Its a little known fact that US Army bayonets, starting with the Krag rifle through the 10" M1 bayonet of WWII, were patterned after the Swiss models. The attachment hardware was different, but the blades, grips and guards are nearly identical. By the time US forces went to war in Korea, the brass had dropped the idea of a dedicated bayonet and substituted "bayonet-knife" designs. An M16 with a 20" barrel actually has a pretty good reach for bayonet fightinhg, but suffers from a lack of a bayonet with a long, light blade like yours. Another little known fact is a Geneva Convention clause (the Law of Land Warfare) that prohibits bayonets with more than two sharpened edges. The Swiss preferred double edged bayonets, but for some reason did not require troopers to sharpen them. Current US forces however, insist on razor sharp bayonets, probably because of their primary use as belt knives. - CW Having been issued an M-9 bayonet on my first deployment, I know for a fact that getting one of those beasts to razor sharpness would be a challenge, as the blade is so thick and the bevel has such a steep angle. As an M-7 owner, I prefer it over the M-9, as the 9 is a huge, cumbersome hog. I think the M-9 was designed to have the weight of the blade, pushed by the swing, chop through the target, more like an axe than cut through like a sword. |
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Having been issued an M-9 bayonet on my first deployment, I know for a fact that getting one of those beasts to razor sharpness would be a challenge, as the blade is so thick and the bevel has such a steep angle. As an M-7 owner, I prefer it over the M-9, as the 9 is a huge, cumbersome hog. I think the M-9 was designed to have the weight of the blade, pushed by the swing, chop through the target, more like an axe than cut through like a sword. Quoted:
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Nice work, Pursuit. Its a little known fact that US Army bayonets, starting with the Krag rifle through the 10" M1 bayonet of WWII, were patterned after the Swiss models. The attachment hardware was different, but the blades, grips and guards are nearly identical. By the time US forces went to war in Korea, the brass had dropped the idea of a dedicated bayonet and substituted "bayonet-knife" designs. An M16 with a 20" barrel actually has a pretty good reach for bayonet fightinhg, but suffers from a lack of a bayonet with a long, light blade like yours. Another little known fact is a Geneva Convention clause (the Law of Land Warfare) that prohibits bayonets with more than two sharpened edges. The Swiss preferred double edged bayonets, but for some reason did not require troopers to sharpen them. Current US forces however, insist on razor sharp bayonets, probably because of their primary use as belt knives. - CW Having been issued an M-9 bayonet on my first deployment, I know for a fact that getting one of those beasts to razor sharpness would be a challenge, as the blade is so thick and the bevel has such a steep angle. As an M-7 owner, I prefer it over the M-9, as the 9 is a huge, cumbersome hog. I think the M-9 was designed to have the weight of the blade, pushed by the swing, chop through the target, more like an axe than cut through like a sword. To be honest, if a situation occurred, the bayonet would not be going with me. I know they are good for crowd control (riots, civil unrest, etc) but in today's world I'll convert that weight to more ammo. I'm into bayonets because the .gov thinks I shouldn't have them. 
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