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8/3/2014 5:16:20 PM EDT
So I was just going to remove the ejector from my new bolt, so I could carefully check how it headspaced with a new barrel.  No problem, right? I've done it lots of times.  Well things went wrong.

It looks like first, the tip of my punch (yes, the right size punch: 1/16") wasn't smooth, so it got jammed in the roll pin hole.  Second, my Brownell's Ejector Removal Tool slipped as I whacked the punch, and both the tool and bolt moved away from me as I was striking the punch.
 
(The bolt isn't that rough, it's just not all cleaned up and oiled because I degreased it before starting to work on it.)

So I have a new bolt on the way, due Wednesday.  I have failed at trying to remove the stuck end of the punch.  It looks rounded because I tried to grasp it with pliers, and they just chipped or slipped and rounded it.  I tried pulling out the exposed part of the roll pin, but that didn't work either, and I haven't been able to make any headway in drilling it out.  So now I have a frustrating and expensive souvenir - and several spare bolt parts.

I examined the rest of my punches after this happened, and most of them seem to be at least a little "mushroomed" from use.  They're all Craftsman tools, and old-style Craftsman tools at that, so I may be able to get them replaced under the old-style Craftsman warranty.  

Why did the Ejector Removal Tool slip?  Probably because I hadn't set it up squarely on my bench before I started.  So it looks like I used a damaged tool and didn't set it up in the fixture properly, so I borked a perfectly good bolt through not taking my time and not inspecting my tools before using them.  Lessons learned here, dammit.

Please check your tools before you use them.  Please take your time, even with a task that should be trivial.  And please don't laugh at me too much...  I'm only starting to laugh at myself over this.
8/3/2014 5:47:25 PM EDT
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I can get that out for you.  All you have to do is ship it to me and I'll likely have it shipped back out same day.  This isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
8/3/2014 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Wow legit.

 
8/3/2014 6:08:33 PM EDT
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I can get that out for you.  All you have to do is ship it to me and I'll likely have it shipped back out same day.  This isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
Wow legit.  

He's going to steal it!



Just kidding, that's pretty cool of him. Some great people here for sure.
8/3/2014 6:09:39 PM EDT
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I can get that out for you.  All you have to do is ship it to me and I'll likely have it shipped back out same day.  This isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
Wow legit.  


He's going to steal it!
Just kidding, that's pretty cool of him. Some great people here for sure.
It is quite the mix, I must admit.

 
8/3/2014 6:27:37 PM EDT
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Things like that is why I prefer the military style extractor pin instead of a drift pin.
8/3/2014 7:22:08 PM EDT
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Just get a new punch and drive from the other side....I really only use the vise for installing ejectors...Just use a bench block to pop 'em out.....
8/3/2014 7:26:24 PM EDT
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One option is to grind down as much of the punch protruding from the bolt as possible, and then using a hydraulic press to press the remaining punch material out.
8/3/2014 8:19:53 PM EDT
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I can get that out for you.  All you have to do is ship it to me and I'll likely have it shipped back out same day.  This isn't the first time I've seen this happen.
Wow legit.  



If only we had a feedback rating on this site.
8/3/2014 10:02:54 PM EDT
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Dam sorry bro,  I got one of these from Bill Ricca  So I wouldn't have to do all that.  

M16 Maximum Headspace Gage, Ordnance Part Number 7799734, NSN 4933-00-070-7814. Disassembly of bolt not needed, gage is cut for extractor and ejector clearance. Each gage is new, in US GI pack, produced in 1991. The current production cost is very expensive, over $600.00 each, due to all the requirements.  PHOTO This is not a cheap commercial gage. This batch was released as surplus by Rock Island circa 1995-96.  They were released after the Army reduced its number of soldiers, due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Each is sealed with a form for certfied testing each year. Most wrappers have a number hand printed in orange ink by Rock Island.  PHOTO   Had a large run on these.  Have just 10 left as of Feb, 2013.  Once these are gone, they will not be available anywhere.

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8/4/2014 3:50:48 AM EDT
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Wow legit.  



If only we had a feedback rating on this site.


We do...
8/4/2014 8:06:19 AM EDT
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We do...


He means for good deeds and giving people in need parts for free
8/4/2014 3:47:13 PM EDT
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That's extremely generous of you.  Can you PM your mailing address to me?  I don't hold high hopes for the bolt being "MIL-SPEC" anymore, but if it's still usable, I'd like to have more than a "souvenir" on my hands.
8/4/2014 3:52:02 PM EDT
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Just get a new punch and drive from the other side....I really only use the vise for installing ejectors...Just use a bench block to pop 'em out.....
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I tried that.  I even let it sit with Kroil overnight before I tried.  I may not have had it well supported when I tried the first time, so I mocked up a support out of a wooden block with a generous relief hole and I didn't budge it, and my new punch tip got distorted with my attempts.

I'm taking up the earlier guy's offer to take care of it for me, and hopefully it won't be as borked as I was worried it was.
8/4/2014 4:00:38 PM EDT
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Dam sorry bro,  I got one of these from Bill Ricca  So I wouldn't have to do all that.  

M16 Maximum Headspace Gage, Ordnance Part Number 7799734, NSN 4933-00-070-7814. Disassembly of bolt not needed, gage is cut for extractor and ejector clearance. Each gage is new, in US GI pack, produced in 1991. The current production cost is very expensive, over $600.00 each, due to all the requirements.  PHOTO This is not a cheap commercial gage. This batch was released as surplus by Rock Island circa 1995-96.  They were released after the Army reduced its number of soldiers, due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. Each is sealed with a form for certfied testing each year. Most wrappers have a number hand printed in orange ink by Rock Island.  PHOTO   Had a large run on these.  Have just 10 left as of Feb, 2013.  Once these are gone, they will not be available anywhere.

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/oqsoKF" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5571/14716594253_7299a4f69f_h.jpg</a>034 by BLACKLIGHT007, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/omEycQ" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3876/14673701406_c2f052748b_h.jpg</a>035 by BLACKLIGHT007, on Flickr

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I'd love to have a GI gage, but unfortunately this was to check a 300 BLK barrel... I don't think ANYONE makes GI style gages for anything but 5.56mm.  
8/4/2014 4:31:54 PM EDT
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you may actually be hitting on the side of the ejector itself. Take a piece of brass and hook it under the extractor and press it back against the bolt face and gently try it again.
8/4/2014 5:17:15 PM EDT
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Had a bolt once that the ejector pin was installed incorrectly and was mangled inside the bolt. It had never started through the other side of the bolt when it was originally installed. Wound up trashing the bolt because I could not figure any way to get the bent up pin out.

Did the pin ever start coming out the other side?
8/4/2014 5:51:04 PM EDT
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I kind of thought that might have been the case, but I just gave up instead of getting even more frustrated.
8/5/2014 1:07:59 PM EDT
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PM inbound.
8/5/2014 2:34:27 PM EDT
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Got it.  Thanks again!
8/5/2014 8:14:06 PM EDT
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Ha.. something similar happened to me on first build. My friend who is better with tools got it out for me.

I have gotten great help from this site too. Sometimes you just have to ask.
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