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Posted: 5/5/2014 9:04:52 AM EDT
| What are ya'lls recommendations for companies to have a complete upper build. I'm thinking a 16" with a 15" handguard (possibly carbon fiber). |
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While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. Quoted:
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Spend the money on tools instead, and do it yourself. It's not rocket science, and you will learn something about your firearm. While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. BS - I built my first in a tiny ass apartment. OP, do it yourself. |
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While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. Quoted:
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Spend the money on tools instead, and do it yourself. It's not rocket science, and you will learn something about your firearm. While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. You don't need much space to build an AR. Kitchen table? Counter top? No prioblem. |
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You don't need much space to build an AR. Kitchen table? Counter top? No prioblem. Quoted:
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Spend the money on tools instead, and do it yourself. It's not rocket science, and you will learn something about your firearm. While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. You don't need much space to build an AR. Kitchen table? Counter top? No prioblem. vice, upper vice block, torque wrench, armorers wrench, punch set, hazmat, grease, allen wrenches, screwdrivers, hammer.....yeah, not much! You could pay a reputable gunsmith $100 to build your upper and do the lower yourself. The people who are throwing out blanket statements about spending $400+ on tools and proposing you do it yourself are really not taking anything into consideration other than throwing common sense and caution to the proverbial wind! |
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What are ya'lls recommendations for companies to have a complete upper build. I'm thinking a 16" with a 15" handguard (possibly carbon fiber). http://ironworkstactical.com/ |
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t: If you want someone else to build an upper to your specs, try Bison Armory or Ironworks Tactical. Both are highly regarded and carry good quality components. If you want to use exactly the components you want, then you will need to do it yourself. This latter option is not particularly expensive. Required tools are a bench vise and a receiver clamp, less than $100 total. These are tools you will use over and over again to maintain and upgrade your AR rifles. You don't need a torque wrench, IMO. good luck - CW http://ironworkstactical.com/ Quoted:
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What are ya'lls recommendations for companies to have a complete upper build. I'm thinking a 16" with a 15" handguard (possibly carbon fiber). http://ironworkstactical.com/ you don't recommend using proper torque on your barrel nut 
how exactly are you going to install your gas block using only a vise and clamp? |
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you don't recommend using proper torque on your barrel nut
how exactly are you going to install your gas block using only a vise and clamp? FYI, the newest handguard designs don't require any shims or indexing, the tube passes over the top of the nut unhindered. See the SLR Solo line, BCM's KMR line and others for this feature. My SLR barrel nut was tightened with a large crescent wrench. I have no problem estimating 35 ft/lbs of torque, by simply tightening enough to secure the barrel tightly against the receiver and enough so the nut won't come loose. Any more than 35 or 40 ft/lbs is unnecessary IMO, esp when dealing with aluminum on aluminum threads, unless of course you need to line up those pesky little holes. If you want to be extra sure about the amount of torque, most auto parts stores will rent or loan 1/2" drive torque wrenches for a nominal fee. Pick up a quart of 10W-30 Mobil 1 while you're at it. Hope that helps - CW |
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vice, upper vice block, torque wrench, armorers wrench, punch set, hazmat, grease, allen wrenches, screwdrivers, hammer.....yeah, not much! You could pay a reputable gunsmith $100 to build your upper and do the lower yourself. The people who are throwing out blanket statements about spending $400+ on tools and proposing you do it yourself are really not taking anything into consideration other than throwing common sense and caution to the proverbial wind! Quoted:
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Spend the money on tools instead, and do it yourself. It's not rocket science, and you will learn something about your firearm. While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. You don't need much space to build an AR. Kitchen table? Counter top? No prioblem. vice, upper vice block, torque wrench, armorers wrench, punch set, hazmat, grease, allen wrenches, screwdrivers, hammer.....yeah, not much! You could pay a reputable gunsmith $100 to build your upper and do the lower yourself. The people who are throwing out blanket statements about spending $400+ on tools and proposing you do it yourself are really not taking anything into consideration other than throwing common sense and caution to the proverbial wind! If that comment was directed toward me, I didn't mention anything about cost of tools. I referred to available space. I've built many in just a few square feet of space. Anyone with common realizes that they have to buy certain tools to build an upper. Either they buy the tools or they pay someone else to do it for them. Not that difficult to figure out. |
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If that comment was directed toward me, I didn't mention anything about cost of tools. I referred to available space. I've built many in just a few square feet of space. Anyone with common realizes that they have to buy certain tools to build an upper. Either they buy the tools or they pay someone else to do it for them. Not that difficult to figure out. Quoted:
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Spend the money on tools instead, and do it yourself. It's not rocket science, and you will learn something about your firearm. While I agree with this that building is extremely beneficial, some people don't have the time/space to build on their own. You don't need much space to build an AR. Kitchen table? Counter top? No prioblem. vice, upper vice block, torque wrench, armorers wrench, punch set, hazmat, grease, allen wrenches, screwdrivers, hammer.....yeah, not much! You could pay a reputable gunsmith $100 to build your upper and do the lower yourself. The people who are throwing out blanket statements about spending $400+ on tools and proposing you do it yourself are really not taking anything into consideration other than throwing common sense and caution to the proverbial wind! If that comment was directed toward me, I didn't mention anything about cost of tools. I referred to available space. I've built many in just a few square feet of space. Anyone with common realizes that they have to buy certain tools to build an upper. Either they buy the tools or they pay someone else to do it for them. Not that difficult to figure out. It was directed towards anyone who thinks all you need to build an upper is a vice........and no one mentions the cost of tools, that's the problem in here. Blanket statements to newb rifle owners that lack all cogent rationale! |
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