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Posted: 11/28/2013 2:36:25 PM EDT
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I want to have my phosphated bcg coated in something else. Really just want to make it easier to clean. But I don't want it shiny like chrome or NiB.
Is melonite or nitride the only other options? Thanks in advance for any advice. |
| melonite and nitride are the same thing and superior to every other coating/treatment. It isn't a coating but a treatment process that alters the surface of the metal. I have heard people say not to nitride the bolt itself though. another option is Cerakote's micro-slick. |
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Perhaps Balinit would be a choice? We utilize Balinit at my work in medical device. I have always wondered how functional it would be in a firearm. They are a plating company, they offer several processes including TiN. Let me be more specific: We utilize Balinit C at my work. I have always wondered if it would work well in a firearm. This is speculation on my behalf since I have not researched at all. |
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I want to have my phosphated bcg coated in something else. Really just want to make it easier to clean. But I don't want it shiny like chrome or NiB. Is melonite or nitride the only other options? Thanks in advance for any advice. My nb bcg isn't really any easier to clean than my regular park ones. What's so hard about cleaning your setup now that makes it unbearable? A DI setup is going to get dirty...... |
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Let me be more specific: We utilize Balinit C at my work. I have always wondered if it would work well in a firearm. This is speculation on my behalf since I have not researched at all. Quoted:
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Perhaps Balinit would be a choice? We utilize Balinit at my work in medical device. I have always wondered how functional it would be in a firearm. They are a plating company, they offer several processes including TiN. Let me be more specific: We utilize Balinit C at my work. I have always wondered if it would work well in a firearm. This is speculation on my behalf since I have not researched at all. Balinit C is tungsten carbon carbide, which should be fine for steel on firearms. |
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After a bit of research, you dont get Bolts melonited because it messes with the heat treatment. So, I guess the bolt itself would be ok to be NiB or chromed.
Comparing my parked carriers and my one chrome one, the chrome is 100x easier to clean. Literally, most just wipes off, and the carbon that doesnt, comes right off with a pick. The parked ones, I have to scrape off. were talking saving 10minutes cleaning, but I honestly just get tired of scraping so much, and I feel like Im wasting time on cleaning, especially when I do the chrome one first. Makes the rest feel like its taking forever. So, Im gonna get the carrier melonited, but still not sure about the bolt. I have 2 bolts I can use. These are Armalite AR10 bolts, if that matters. One came headspaced with my barrel, the other came with the carrier. Id like to get the one that is headspaced with my barrel coated, and leave the other as a spare. So, for the bolt, what are my options? Nickel Boron, Micro slick, chromed, what else am I missing? Im sure I can find a machine shop here in Houston to do the melonite, but not sure if Id trust just some machine shop to coat my bolt. One last question, do I need to remove the gas key, or could I have it all coated while assembled? Would it be beneficial to remove it? And if I had to remove it, should I just get a new gas key and bolts, or can I reuse the old ones? Thanks again for the advice. The carrier is getting melonited, just gotta figure out what to do with the bolt. |
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After a bit of research, you dont get Bolts melonited because it messes with the heat treatment. So, I guess the bolt itself would be ok to be NiB or chromed. Comparing my parked carriers and my one chrome one, the chrome is 100x easier to clean. Literally, most just wipes off, and the carbon that doesnt, comes right off with a pick. The parked ones, I have to scrape off. were talking saving 10minutes cleaning, but I honestly just get tired of scraping so much, and I feel like Im wasting time on cleaning, especially when I do the chrome one first. Makes the rest feel like its taking forever. So, Im gonna get the carrier melonited, but still not sure about the bolt. I have 2 bolts I can use. These are Armalite AR10 bolts, if that matters. One came headspaced with my barrel, the other came with the carrier. Id like to get the one that is headspaced with my barrel coated, and leave the other as a spare. So, for the bolt, what are my options? Nickel Boron, Micro slick, chromed, what else am I missing? Im sure I can find a machine shop here in Houston to do the melonite, but not sure if Id trust just some machine shop to coat my bolt. One last question, do I need to remove the gas key, or could I have it all coated while assembled? Would it be beneficial to remove it? And if I had to remove it, should I just get a new gas key and bolts, or can I reuse the old ones? Thanks again for the advice. The carrier is getting melonited, just gotta figure out what to do with the bolt. If you melonited the carrier. Just how hard do you figure those grade 8 Allen heads, that hold the gas key on are going to be? Will it matter? don't know  , but that grade is specified for some reason. Probably to get the proper torque on them.
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| I have two BCG's both in NiB...one of which is a Fail Zero EXO and the other is a Rainier Arms Match grade. The NiB coating on both of them is rather flat looking in appearance. They don't even come close to resembling a look that mimics chrome or anything remotely shiny. And IMHO, NiB is the shit. It makes cleaning an absolute piece of cake. |
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I have two BCG's both in NiB...one of which is a Fail Zero EXO and the other is a Rainier Arms Match grade. The NiB coating on both of them is rather flat looking in appearance. They don't even come close to resembling a look that mimics chrome or anything remotely shiny. And IMHO, NiB is the shit. It makes cleaning an absolute piece of cake. my young nib looks like its been bead blasted, thats the best description i can give of it. if you need something coated and are in houston check out polydyn. i get a lot of parts done there for work, amazing stuff. I get some stuff coated w/ an aluminum, ceramic, teflon stuff(i don't know and don't care to) that even industrial super glue that will bond steel together won't stick to. had my intake and valve covers coated in what ever cerakote stuff they've been doing on some gov. weapons. all very affordable. |
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my young nib looks like its been bead blasted, thats the best description i can give of it. if you need something coated and are in houston check out polydyn. i get a lot of parts done there for work, amazing stuff. I get some stuff coated w/ an aluminum, ceramic, teflon stuff(i don't know and don't care to) that even industrial super glue that will bond steel together won't stick to. had my intake and valve covers coated in what ever cerakote stuff they've been doing on some gov. weapons. all very affordable. Quoted:
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I have two BCG's both in NiB...one of which is a Fail Zero EXO and the other is a Rainier Arms Match grade. The NiB coating on both of them is rather flat looking in appearance. They don't even come close to resembling a look that mimics chrome or anything remotely shiny. And IMHO, NiB is the shit. It makes cleaning an absolute piece of cake. my young nib looks like its been bead blasted, thats the best description i can give of it. if you need something coated and are in houston check out polydyn. i get a lot of parts done there for work, amazing stuff. I get some stuff coated w/ an aluminum, ceramic, teflon stuff(i don't know and don't care to) that even industrial super glue that will bond steel together won't stick to. had my intake and valve covers coated in what ever cerakote stuff they've been doing on some gov. weapons. all very affordable. bead blasted is probably a better description. you hit the nail on the head with that. |
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