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7/3/2013 8:06:32 PM EDT
I am building a new upper. The gas tube hangs up on the lower portion of the port going into the upper receiver. Any advice?
7/3/2013 9:01:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Check and make sure your barrel nut is lined up with the opening into the receiver.
7/3/2013 9:33:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Check and make sure your barrel nut is lined up with the opening into the receiver.


This......you are looking to get perfect alignment here...the gas tube should "free float"...not tight against any one side of the nut or upper.
7/4/2013 8:53:10 AM EDT
[#3]
The barrel nut is lined up correctly. I've built several over the years but never run into this problem.
I think the port cut into the upper receiver is too high. They have threaded bushing in there. I think I'll need to open it wider
7/4/2013 8:55:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
The barrel nut is lined up correctly. I've built several over the years but never run into this problem.
I think the port cut into the upper receiver is too high. They have threaded bushing in there. I think I'll need to open it wider


There should not be any bushing unless the upper is designed for a piston system
7/4/2013 8:11:16 PM EDT
[#5]
Put an alignment gage in the gas key and see if it lines up with the hole in the upper.
7/4/2013 8:57:12 PM EDT
[#6]
Good thought
7/5/2013 8:13:01 AM EDT
[#7]
Gas tube installed up side down?
7/5/2013 8:20:56 AM EDT
[#8]
The proper way to check for this is to remove the bolt from the BCG and cycle it into the upper upsidedown.  It's not uncommon to have to bend the gas tube with a large screw driver to tune it to the gas key.

For whatever reason, I've had a few of these happen to me lately too.
7/5/2013 8:36:56 AM EDT
[#9]
No, gas tube in right side up.
Alignment gage shows it to be inline.
So it come down to either the bushing shouldn't be in there or I need to grind down the lower portion of the bushing.
7/5/2013 8:38:15 AM EDT
[#10]
never seen a upper with a bushing on a DI rifle.  You sure you got the right upper.
7/5/2013 8:40:36 AM EDT
[#11]
You know, that is an easier fix.
I'll give that a try and let you know.
Thanks.
7/5/2013 8:42:26 AM EDT
[#12]
I bought it from Tactical Ambush.
http://www.tacticalambush.com/AR-15-stripped-upper-receiver-7599_p_108.html
It didn't say it was for a DI system
7/5/2013 8:52:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Ok, so bending the gas tube doesn't work.
I have a YHM FF handguard.
As the gas tube goes through the barrel nut, it holds it lower on the bushing. This is where it is hanging up.
So it comes back to either getting rid of the bushing and let it be very loose in the port, or grinding down the lower portion of the bushing.
I don't think that I want to grind on the barrel nut.
7/5/2013 9:58:39 AM EDT
[#14]
Interesting.  Their non-stripped upper has a pic which clearly shows no bushing.
7/5/2013 10:13:36 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Ok, so bending the gas tube doesn't work.


What do you mean?  Is it that far out of whack?  You may need to pull the tube out of the upper and to some trial and error tweaking.  It is a pain to bend it in the upper....

Good luck.
7/5/2013 11:18:14 AM EDT
[#16]
Don't understand the whole bushing thing to begin with, others also say they've never seen one. Could you post a pic showing the opening and the bushing?
7/5/2013 11:48:23 AM EDT
[#17]
Strange there's a bushing in there. Like an Adams Arms piston conversion kit bushing?
Like this?
7/5/2013 11:57:43 AM EDT
[#18]
My take is that grinding out the hole is a bad idea.
The hole is not an interference fit to the gas tube but it does restrict the movement of the tube enough that it will stay in alignment with the gas key during firing.
If the hole is in the wrong position send the upper back.
I have never had a misdrilled YHM barrel nut, but it is possible.
So if the gas key also does not line up then you know the upper is out for a DI application..
An armorer’s alignment gage, a drill bit, a steel rod, etc. put in the gas key should go through the hole easily when the bolt carrier is put in the upper.
Obviously a person can cause damage with a drill bit if not careful.
I don’t use piston kits, but it seems like there is a kit where the hole is drilled and a bushing installed.
7/5/2013 8:29:28 PM EDT
[#19]
Using a bushing on a gas system is not a very good idea. The four cuts around the normal opening are there to allow for gas to escape. It helps vent the interior of the upper to prevent over pressure.
7/5/2013 9:12:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Sounds like the OP has an upper that was prepped for a piston gun.
Might want to exchange it for a DI upper and make your life easier.
7/5/2013 9:23:44 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


Sounds like the OP has an upper that was prepped for a piston gun.

Might want to exchange it for a DI upper and make your life easier.
That is my thought but pics would help.





 
7/6/2013 10:44:27 AM EDT
[#22]
What is weird about this is a bushing doesn't change the location, just reduce the size and reinforce the hole with steel.
7/6/2013 11:34:31 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
What is weird about this is a bushing doesn't change the location, just reduce the size and reinforce the hole with steel.


Yes, but he makes it sound like it nearly works, just hitting the bottom of the bushing (which AFAIK, should not be there). Pics would be great, as well as more info in the acquisition of the upper (was it used, new second hand, could someone have been prepping it for some custom application like a piston build? Can it be returned?).

Has ANYONE here ever seen a standard upper with a bushing in the gas tube opening?
7/6/2013 12:39:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Who would go to the trouble in a place where there is no wear in a DI system?
7/7/2013 9:15:56 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
What is weird about this is a bushing doesn't change the location, just reduce the size and reinforce the hole with steel.


Yes, but he makes it sound like it nearly works, just hitting the bottom of the bushing (which AFAIK, should not be there). Pics would be great, as well as more info in the acquisition of the upper (was it used, new second hand, could someone have been prepping it for some custom application like a piston build? Can it be returned?).

Has ANYONE here ever seen a standard upper with a bushing in the gas tube opening?


I would try to get the bushing out.  As everyone has stated, it doesn't belong.  Better yet, I would contact the seller and ask WTF? and arrange for an exchange.

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