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Posted: 12/4/2011 7:53:59 AM EDT
Hi guys, I've got some time until I can afford to start building my first rifle, but it doesn't hurt to dream/plan right? 
Lemme know of any suggestions you have or potential problems you may foresee. I know, its kind of a simple build, if it can even be called a build
So here's the current recipe: Adams Arms Middy Upper RRA Complete Lower Half / Standard Trigger / 6-Position Tactical CAR Stock And perhaps eventually I'll add: VLTOR CASV-S Mid-Length Rail VLTOR E-MOD A5 Stock |
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No man, that's a pretty good starting point. I don't see any problems with those parts. Lots and lots of options out there.
Once again, nothing wrong with your setup, but make sure you look around at all that is available. That way you can make a well informed decision. But I don't know, you may have already done that. Good luck! |
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Nick,
You have good stuff listed. Some of the potential issues with the setup aren't really issues they are about personal preferences. Also we don't know what the rifle is being used for ,Home Defense, work, 3 gun, plinking, hunting coyotes. It will help folks who post give a valued opinion and lead you in a better direction. Not intending to, You have already started a why a Piston setup opposed to a Direct Impingement setup in the minds of people who read your post. You have people on here that will say never on a piston set up because DI works as it was designed. Piston proponents say it runs cooler smoother and cleaner. Just so you know I think the Adams Arms setup comes with a proprietary BCG so the BCM won't be necessary. I don't currently have a Piston set-up. If I was to build one I would use a Adams Arms kit if that tells you anything. You have to also make sure the Vltor rail is compatible with the Adams piston system. It may not fit under the rail. RRA is a decent company but you may be able to find some other vendors who will give you more bang for your buck. PSA Moe setup is better priced or the PSA standard lower for 239. You save over 70 bucks and I bet you wouldn't know the difference in between the RRA that you are looking at and the PSA classic at the range. Not knowing which Lower Parts Kits (LPK) PSA uses is the only issue I see. The RRA trigger might be just a little better not having fired either I can't make a valued judgement on that. My opinion. If this is your first AR get a Direct Impingement setup. Parts are easier to get, less hassle with incompatibility with accessories. |
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Nick, You have good stuff listed. Some of the potential issues with the setup aren't really issues they are about personal preferences. Also we don't know what the rifle is being used for ,Home Defense, work, 3 gun, plinking, hunting coyotes. It will help folks who post give a valued opinion and lead you in a better direction. Not intending to, You have already started a why a Piston setup opposed to a Direct Impingement setup in the minds of people who read your post. You have people on here that will say never on a piston set up because DI works as it was designed. Piston proponents say it runs cooler smoother and cleaner. Just so you know I think the Adams Arms setup comes with a proprietary BCG so the BCM won't be necessary. I don't currently have a Piston set-up. If I was to build one I would use a Adams Arms kit if that tells you anything. You have to also make sure the Vltor rail is compatible with the Adams piston system. It may not fit under the rail. RRA is a decent company but you may be able to find some other vendors who will give you more bang for your buck. PSA Moe setup is better priced or the PSA standard lower for 239. You save over 70 bucks and I bet you wouldn't know the difference in between the RRA that you are looking at and the PSA classic at the range. Not knowing which Lower Parts Kits (LPK) PSA uses is the only issue I see. The RRA trigger might be just a little better not having fired either I can't make a valued judgement on that. My opinion. If this is your first AR get a Direct Impingement setup. Parts are easier to get, less hassle with incompatibility with accessories. I agree with this. |
| This thread is devoid of any technical merit, request for information, or anything resembling an interesting discussion topic. Let's start over OP, what do you want to use this rifle for? Why did you pick those particular parts over the other options you considered? What other options did you consider? |
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Nick, You have good stuff listed. Some of the potential issues with the setup aren't really issues they are about personal preferences. Also we don't know what the rifle is being used for ,Home Defense, work, 3 gun, plinking, hunting coyotes. It will help folks who post give a valued opinion and lead you in a better direction. Good point, it's mostly for plinking and defense/bug out . Not intending to, You have already started a why a Piston setup opposed to a Direct Impingement setup in the minds of people who read your post. You have people on here that will say never on a piston set up because DI works as it was designed. Piston proponents say it runs cooler smoother and cleaner. Just so you know I think the Adams Arms setup comes with a proprietary BCG so the BCM won't be necessary. I don't currently have a Piston set-up. If I was to build one I would use a Adams Arms kit if that tells you anything. You have to also make sure the Vltor rail is compatible with the Adams piston system. It may not fit under the rail. More good points. I went with piston partly because of ease of cleaning and more so for increased reliability when in the elements (or so I've been lead to believe). I'm willing to spend the extra couple hundred for those features, especially since I don't plan on purchasing another AR for a very long time. As for the rail and piston compatibility, I'm planning on emailing both Vltor and AA some time soon. RRA is a decent company but you may be able to find some other vendors who will give you more bang for your buck. PSA Moe setup is better priced or the PSA standard lower for 239. You save over 70 bucks and I bet you wouldn't know the difference in between the RRA that you are looking at and the PSA classic at the range. Not knowing which Lower Parts Kits (LPK) PSA uses is the only issue I see. The RRA trigger might be just a little better not having fired either I can't make a valued judgement on that. Other than because they're a quality brand, I'd rather go with RRA because they're an Illinois manufacturer and I like to support local business when I can, along with American businesses instead of foreign, even if it cost me a few bucks more. My opinion. If this is your first AR get a Direct Impingement setup. Parts are easier to get, less hassle with incompatibility with accessories. Quoted:
This thread is devoid of any technical merit, request for information, or anything resembling an interesting discussion topic. Let's start over OP, what do you want to use this rifle for? Why did you pick those particular parts over the other options you considered? What other options did you consider? Some of what you said was answered above. None of this stuff is really set in stone, I'm just testing the waters and seeing if there were any technical reasons above my head that I could become aware of. Thanks guys! |
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This thread is devoid of any technical merit, request for information, or anything resembling an interesting discussion topic. Let's start over OP, what do you want to use this rifle for? Why did you pick those particular parts over the other options you considered? What other options did you consider?  He asked if we saw any potential issues. That sounds like a request for info to me. He was then informed that the Vltor rail may not fit over the AA system, which covers technical merit. Don't try to re-route the thread so that it aligns with what you feel to be "interesting". It's not your thread. If you don't like it, stay out. 
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More good points. I went with piston partly because of ease of cleaning and more so for increased reliability when in the elements (or so I've been lead to believe). I'm willing to spend the extra couple hundred for those features, especially since I don't plan on purchasing another AR for a very long time. As for the rail and piston compatibility, I'm planning on emailing both Vltor and AA some time soon. You are going to start a HUGE GP and DI discussion - Normally heated. If you are using for plinking and "home defense" (pistols are normal for this). Bug out? Please explain, I am confused? Is this after you kill your wife and you need to shoot the police on your way out of the house? Just kidding. For what you describe...Either will do, but the cost out weights the benefit for the GP. Most GP systems are generally $300-500 additional costs. Reliability. Maintenance/reliability is also a highly debated item. There are many people that are running GP that will tell you it is not more reliable - GP does have items breakwith disturbing frequency that I have seen. DoD acquisitions reviewed the GP system next to the DI to purchase in the future - DI won for a reason. SPEC OPS community has tested the GP systems many times, and they are still using DI. In other words, don't believe everything you read on forums and vendor sites. Cleaning. If you have a SS or Chromed BCG...Most people just have to wipe them off and they are GTG. Again, another highly debatable point between the GP and DI. The cleaning issue becomes important when you are in some place like Vietnam tromping around in waste deep mud and firing potentially thousands of rounds per day without cleaning for a week on while on patrol. There are FEW people that do this with regularity, and most people actually clean their rifles, so this is a negligible detail about cleaning. Also, GP will still have some issues with this too! I have done TONS of reading and reseach, and I am not convinced. I think the idea of the GP is interesting and hopefully will make a design difference in teh future. If you are convinced, please purchase the GP system and continue to give reports. However, if you are just going to put this in the closet next to the bed and only shoot 1-2K rounds a year through the rifle...Not much reporting will be needed. |
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