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Posted: 1/26/2011 5:58:53 PM EDT
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I have decided on del ton, my main question is what is the difference between the mid length and dissipator kits. Also are they accurate enough for some coyote hunting (will be mostly a range gun)? A far 3rd on the list is the 20 inch kit, is it a considerable ammount more accurate?
Thanks for the help, sorry if there is a search that covers all this, my phone (only source of internet right now ) didn't want to do the search. I don't think it matters but the lower is a dpms... |
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I'm pretty sure the midlength and dissipator use the same mid length gas system, so no difference there. Only difference is the length of the hand gaurd.
Yes, they are accurate enough for coyote hunting. I've heard good things such as 2 moa and 1 moa on these guns. Mine is pretty damned accurate. I'm a terrible shot, but 2 moa isn't very hard with surp ammo. The 20 will give you a bit more muzzle velocity, but accuracy I doubt you'll see a huge difference just because of the length of the barrel. Any of them will do for 300 ish yards I'd say. Mine does fine that far, and I wouldn't see why others wouldn't. |
| The dissipator should be using a carbine length gas system with rifle length handguards. Basically you're keeping the carbine gas system and barrel length, but you get the sight radius of a rifle. For the coyote hunting, I think the dissy would be more favorable because of the sight radius. |
| Your del-ton dissy will come with a carbine length gas system under rifle length handguards and a front site base that has no gas system attached to it. There has to be at least 4 inches of space from gas block to the end of the barrel for proper back pressure, so the dissy uses the carbine system to keep that going with a 16" barrel and you still get the sight radius from a full rifle length handguards/fsb. For your application it doesnt sound like the sight radius of a dissy is anything you need to worry about, so I would focus on a middy or carbine. The middy will ease up recoil and parts life. The DI system the ar was designed for was a 20" barrel and rifle length gas system. When you shorten all that down, it causes more wear on parts. I think the middy on a 16" would be your best bet. Or just the standard 20" setup with rifle length gas system, but at the distances youre shooting, I dont think 20 would be necessary unless its just something you wanted. Again, vote is for 16" middy. |
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What about a rifle length on a 16" barrel... are del ton dissipators known for any problems with reliability or accuracy? Sorry, didn't see these to cover too. You can't have rifle gas system on a 16" barrel because of the reasons listed in above post. Need about 4" from gas block to end of barrel. And no, the dissipator upper isnt known for problems with accuracy or reliability because the changes are purely cosmetic. Youre still running a carbine gas system under the handguards, so your reliability will be based on a carbine gas system, and same with accuracy. Still just a 16" carbine barrel, but with IRON sights, the longer sight radius of the sight setup on a dissy would help accuracy for you a bit. Edit - Sorry for rambling posts, had a couple after work, but the info is still valid. If youre planning on going eotech or optics and irons arent really your thing, I think you'll get the most out of the middy. |
| mid length is fine you dont need to go spastic because no one helped you in 2 hours. delton is currently backed up and out of stock of all chrome lined barrels, some people have been waiting for 2 months for their uppers (i have been waiting for over 1 month) so you arent going to get an upper from them anytime soon unless you order chrome-moly (if they even have those in stock either). |
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Del-ton uses rifle length gas system in their dissapator according to them. As for a middy I have one and a carbine. I like the middy better. I like the front sight farther on the middy and it seems to run a tad smoother. Mark
Dissipators are 16" with a rifle length gas system. We are currently out of stock on them. I don't have an ETA on when they will be back in stock. They come standard with the flat top upper, but you can choose the A2 upper or the detachable carry handle. You can always order a carbine gas system write in your order comments that you want a lopro gas block and a specific FF tube to cover the gas block, which would mimic a dissipator.
Happy Thanksgiving!! Laura |
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+1 on that. The after election wait was terrible. I have the mid-length with free float rifle length handguard and chrome lined 16" barrel.
Some call them a Specter or Recce (recon) type AR. Quoted:
A month isn't too long. When Obama got elected I had to wait 6 months for my carbine kit. It seemed like forever. Mark |
| That has to be someone at del-ton not sure what they're talking about... You can't run a rifle length gas system in a 16" barrel. Most (all) dissipators are done with a carbine gas system with a shaved down gas block, then rifle length handguards over those and a non functional gas block / fsb at the front. All it should be there for is the sights aspect, shouldnt have a gas tube even connected to it. |
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