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11/23/2010 8:51:47 AM EDT
I am getting ready to build my second AR and was looking  for some opinions for a fixed stock. My next AR is either going to be a 6.8 or a 50 beowulf. I was thinking about a plain A2 stock or maybe even one of those skeleton type stocks. Any advice on who makes a good one please let me know. thanks
11/23/2010 9:51:14 AM EDT
[#1]
I used an ACE skeleton stock on a ban-compliant rifle. We still have an AWB here in CT.



It's great! The foam wrap is a nice touch. The stock isn't as cold in the winter and it muffles the "sproing" somewhat.
11/23/2010 1:07:13 PM EDT
[#2]
I like my A1 and A2 stocks....<><....:)
11/23/2010 1:17:04 PM EDT
[#3]
I would try the A1.  It fits many people, myself included, better than the A2.  Mine does have an A2 butt plate on it.  I am also building a 6.8 and this is on the lower I plan to use for it.
11/23/2010 1:25:09 PM EDT
[#4]
slight hijack:



how big are the A1 and A2 stocks? length, I mean.
11/23/2010 6:12:10 PM EDT
[#5]
If you're going to use it for hunting I would think you would want a stock that is light weight. Then again on the flip side, if you are going to use it for shooting 50's, you might want something with alittle weight to help with theh recoil.  Then there are adjustable butt stocks such as the one made by Les Branson.
11/23/2010 7:35:19 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
slight hijack:

how big are the A1 and A2 stocks? length, I mean.


If memory serves, the A2 is 5/8 of an inch longer than the A1.
11/23/2010 7:53:56 PM EDT
[#7]
so who has the best deals on the A1/A2 and skeleton stocks?
11/24/2010 6:23:08 AM EDT
[#8]
I recently bought 2 Model 1 Sales A2 stocks from Midway there were less then $60 each and came with Buffer Tube, Spring, Rifle Buffer, and Extension.  They are good.  I have alittle play in the 2nd one I installed but nothing that I notice when shooting.

MAHA
11/24/2010 6:53:15 AM EDT
[#9]




Quoted:

so who has the best deals on the A1/A2 and skeleton stocks?




EE?
11/24/2010 8:24:55 AM EDT
[#10]
I bought a Cav Arms A1 stock, and installed an A2 trapdoor plate. The advantage was I got it in Foliage Green, and matched the lower, grip, and handguards. I'm no fan of black.

One school of thought is to try out one or the other by pressing the butt stock into the crook of the elbow against the bicep, and holding the pistol grip. One or the other will be a better length for you, and that translates into a cheek weld that works with the sights. If it's largely a matter of precision shooting, the longer stock is generally preferred.

.50 Beowulf is considered a bit hard on some stocks, an adjustable needs to have a quality detent design that won't strip out under recoil.

Most shooter's don't wear body armor, I see adjustable stocks as limiting. They force the use of carbine extensions, buffers, etc, which all have cyclic issues if not tuned in correctly. Rifle length works better right out of the box, there are few complaints about it. Having a view on functional reliability rather than cosmetic coolness, it was an easy choice.
11/24/2010 2:35:00 PM EDT
[#11]
+1 for EE
Quoted:

Quoted:
so who has the best deals on the A1/A2 and skeleton stocks?


EE?


11/25/2010 8:31:14 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I bought a Cav Arms A1 stock, and installed an A2 trapdoor plate. The advantage was I got it in Foliage Green, and matched the lower, grip, and handguards. I'm no fan of black.

One school of thought is to try out one or the other by pressing the butt stock into the crook of the elbow against the bicep, and holding the pistol grip. One or the other will be a better length for you, and that translates into a cheek weld that works with the sights. If it's largely a matter of precision shooting, the longer stock is generally preferred.

.50 Beowulf is considered a bit hard on some stocks, an adjustable needs to have a quality detent design that won't strip out under recoil.

Most shooter's don't wear body armor, I see adjustable stocks as limiting. They force the use of carbine extensions, buffers, etc, which all have cyclic issues if not tuned in correctly. Rifle length works better right out of the box, there are few complaints about it. Having a view on functional reliability rather than cosmetic coolness, it was an easy choice.
I looked at the Cav Arms, and really liked them do you know if they fit mil spec buffer tubes or comerical? Also I plan on having a mid lenght gas system, so will the standard sping and buffer work fine for the mid lenght? I thought I read on hee some where the you could go either way is that  correct?

11/25/2010 11:56:48 AM EDT
[#13]
I use an ACE Entry-length stock and I like it for what it is. It's very light, which is nice. I wish that is was 3/4" longer, though. I also replaced the foam with parachute cord.

11/25/2010 4:04:39 PM EDT
[#14]
i really like the sully stock from defensive edge.  really nice stock, but pricey.
11/26/2010 5:05:21 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I bought a Cav Arms A1 stock, and installed an A2 trapdoor plate. The advantage was I got it in Foliage Green, and matched the lower, grip, and handguards. I'm no fan of black.

One school of thought is to try out one or the other by pressing the butt stock into the crook of the elbow against the bicep, and holding the pistol grip. One or the other will be a better length for you, and that translates into a cheek weld that works with the sights. If it's largely a matter of precision shooting, the longer stock is generally preferred.

.50 Beowulf is considered a bit hard on some stocks, an adjustable needs to have a quality detent design that won't strip out under recoil.

Most shooter's don't wear body armor, I see adjustable stocks as limiting. They force the use of carbine extensions, buffers, etc, which all have cyclic issues if not tuned in correctly. Rifle length works better right out of the box, there are few complaints about it. Having a view on functional reliability rather than cosmetic coolness, it was an easy choice.


I'm getting ready to order a A1 from Cav Arms. I think the length of pull will work better for me. I too am looking at Foliage Green or OD and was wondering which company's (Magpul for instance) grip and handguard would match up the best.
11/26/2010 1:08:51 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I bought a Cav Arms A1 stock, and installed an A2 trapdoor plate. The advantage was I got it in Foliage Green, and matched the lower, grip, and handguards. I'm no fan of black.

One school of thought is to try out one or the other by pressing the butt stock into the crook of the elbow against the bicep, and holding the pistol grip. One or the other will be a better length for you, and that translates into a cheek weld that works with the sights. If it's largely a matter of precision shooting, the longer stock is generally preferred.

.50 Beowulf is considered a bit hard on some stocks, an adjustable needs to have a quality detent design that won't strip out under recoil.

Most shooter's don't wear body armor, I see adjustable stocks as limiting. They force the use of carbine extensions, buffers, etc, which all have cyclic issues if not tuned in correctly. Rifle length works better right out of the box, there are few complaints about it. Having a view on functional reliability rather than cosmetic coolness, it was an easy choice.
I looked at the Cav Arms, and really liked them do you know if they fit mil spec buffer tubes or comerical? Also I plan on having a mid lenght gas system, so will the standard sping and buffer work fine for the mid lenght? I thought I read on hee some where the you could go either way is that  correct?



The question you pose to tirod is a little off... The A1 or A2 stocks (made by all) use the same rifle receiver extension (buffertube).
A collapsable stock which uses a carbine receiver extension (buffertube) will be made either to commercial spec (which varies) or mil spec (which hopefully does not vary).

CavArms A1 or A2 stocks will use a rifle buffertube with the standard rifle spring and buffer.
CavArms M4 style (collapsable) stocks will use either a milspec or commercial tube DEPENDENT upon whether or not the stock body is mil spec or com. spec.

A midlength gas system should be absolutely fine with a standard carbine buffer and carbine spring.  You could use a heavier buffer, but if a standard buffer works, you would only be spending more money.
11/26/2010 1:15:25 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
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-SNIP-.


I'm getting ready to order a A1 from Cav Arms. I think the length of pull will work better for me. I too am looking at Foliage Green or OD and was wondering which company's (Magpul for instance) grip and handguard would match up the best.


I have a Cav Arms A1 OD green stock. It matches my ergo grip's OD green and Armalite's OD green handguards. Not sure on magpul products or the Foliage green options. Cav Arms historically matches their colors to ergo/vltor/tango down, NOT magpul... So I would ASSUME that the cav arms foliage matches the vltor/ergo/tango down foliage color better than the magpul color.

You could ask cav arms in the industry forum to get a quick answer.
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