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6/21/2009 7:08:33 PM EDT
Hello,

I've been looking into building myself an AR, and I was going to start with the lower reciever (for obvious reasons).  I've been talking with my local FFL Dealer, and he says that a stripped lower could be considered a pistol, and since I'm only 20, he would not be able, by law, to sell it to me.  He also told me that some lowers come marked with "Pistol" on them, and that most have no marking at all, and that those are the ones he wouldn't be able to sell me.  Now my question: Are their any lower recievers that are marked "Rifle"? Or can I just buy a reciever with a stock already attached (such as this) and be able to obtain it legally?

Any insight on this matter is much appreciated.
6/21/2009 7:19:02 PM EDT
[#1]
He should go ahead sell it to you, on the BS FORM he should record it as an *other* which is neither a pistol nor a rifle. It becomes then whatever you make it, either pistol, rifle, SBR, machine-gun or paperweight. This guy is trying to be more careful than is legally necessary.
6/21/2009 8:20:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
He should go ahead sell it to you, on the BS FORM he should record it as an *other* which is neither a pistol nor a rifle. It becomes then whatever you make it, either pistol, rifle, SBR, machine-gun or paperweight. This guy is trying to be more careful than is legally necessary.


When it is recorded as "other" on the form, you must be 21.  Depending on your dealer, if you order an assembled lower with a stock he can either mark it as rifle, or other, it really depends on the dealer and his definition of a rifle.

Now if your FFL Dealer has a type 7 license, and once again depending on how he views the definition of a rifle, you can order a stripped lower receiver, and when it comes in have your dealer attach the stock and sell it to you as a rifle.
6/21/2009 11:16:29 PM EDT
[#3]
when i bought my stripped lower i was asked if it was going to be a pistol or rifle lower, i told him rifle and he marked it as long gun on that damn form.
6/22/2009 12:50:53 AM EDT
[#4]
There are no lowers marked "Rifle" and the lowers marked "Pistol" are not legally required and wouldn't bar one from breaking the law (turning a pistol to a rifle then back to a pistol - not recommended)...any more than if one were to turn a rifle into a pistol.  That is, the lower can be sold to you as a "Rifle" on the form.  If you choose to break the law and use the lower for a pistol, that is beyond the control of the FFL holder.   That is no different than if your FFL holder were to sell you a rifle, then you convert it into a pistol.

FFL holders are not always up to speed on the current BATF interpretation of the law.  They could simple contact their BATF agent for clarification, but most don't.  If your FFL holder will not sell you the lower as a "rifle" after you politely ask him/her to contact their BATF agent to confirm the legality of doing so,  then find another FFL holder.
6/22/2009 10:38:08 AM EDT
[#5]
.... Why don't you just buy a lower with a rifle receiver extension already installed? That should make it a rifle.
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