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Posted: 4/4/2008 7:09:29 AM EDT
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I have been reading on here for over a month now and am about to start my first AR build. I have found lots of great information on this site and all of you guys seem willing to help. I have been wanting an AR for years and finally have decided to go ahead and do it. I was planning on buying a complete rifle until I start reading some on here. I was wanting a RRA or an M&P, but have decided to just build my own. I am going to order a lower in the next few days and am leaing towards a DPMS, RRA, Stag Arms or EA. I have read that they are all about the same. I don't know which direction that I want to go on the upper yet. I have been toying around with the idea of buying a kit for my first project...but can't make up my mind about it. In the end I am wanting a 16" carbine, tactical entry type of wepon like the SWAT team would use. I want a flat top with a quadrail iron sights as well as a EoTech sight. I would love to hear any suggestions on upper parts/kits and any recomendation on vendors to use. So far I have looked at the kits and parts from M&A and Del-Ton. I can't wait to get started and look forward to getting to know all you guys. |
| Welcome from one newbie to another :) Your story sounds just like mine :) I got a RRA lower and started putting pencil to paper and realized you save a few $$ by getting a kit as well as frustration of not getting everything you need and having to look at a rifle with no trigger :) BUT you still get to choose a few options, like the SS bull barrel. Like you this was my first (of many :)) AR so I went the easy route and ordered a Varmint kit from Model 1 Sales.. it was quite a few $$ up front, but I got everything I needed on one shot.. ordered it on Thurs and it delivered Monday. |
| I am leaning towards a kit for the first one so I don't leave anything out. What do you guys think...is it any cheaper to buy the individual parts or are kits about the same price. I don't mind and had rather buy the individual parts so I can spread the cost out over a period of time. I know that I will need more tools if I have to assemble the upper myself...but would not count that towards rifle cost. |
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Sounds like a Stag 2T is what you want. When I planned by first build, I had your plan in mind: piece by piece. A barrel this week, an upper a few weeks later, sights a week or two after that, etc etc. Assuming you want something standard/common/basic, it will cost more to buy new (quality!) parts and assemble them than to just buy a complete upper and lower and snap them together. Unless you're a parts whore, VERY particular, or like to babysit the EE for good used deals (buyer beware), you're usually better off with a pre-assembled upper. Many of the kits and customizable uppers are a decent way to go. |
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Legal Transfers has a nice Stag M4 kit with MI ERS BUIS and a Magazine for $633. You could upgrade it to the Stag-15 Model 2HT that has the railed float tube and ARMS#40L BUIS for a bit more. I would suggest pending $88 more and getting the two stage trigger while you are at it. Also check out PK Firearms they have Bushmaster, DPMS, Saber, Rock river arms uppers. You would have to get a lower parts kit and a butt stock to make it a complete kit. ADCO is also good to deal with, they carry Rock River Arms and White Oak products and can custom build your upper any way you want it. |
Thanks for the info, I was just looking at the Stag M4 Kit from Legal Transfers. On the two stage triggers....I know it is suppose to make for a smoother trigger pull and trust me I hunt and my deer rifle has a nice 2 1/2 lb. pull. I don't plan on shooting this gun at long range, just for plinking out to 100 yards max. What is the main difference you get from the two stage trigger? |
The regular AR trigger is heavy and rough in stock form. Improved 1- and 2-stage triggers are a must for precision work. If you're a "close is good enough" guy like me, you can live with a stock trigger. Feel one first if possible. |
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My stock trigger SUCKS! I am spoiled by my Model 70 Winchester and Cold Defender.. I may try the route suggested in another thread and get it worked, or I may just get a two stage trigger. Don't mean to hijack, but this seemed like a good place to ask.. with a two stage trigger a buddy of mine said some of the two stage triggers he dealt with years (many years :) ) ago, you had to cycle the safety before you could fire again.. I hate to seem ignorant, but you never learn unless you ask and are told the correct answer.. thank ahead of time hijack off. |
On a side note for about $40, the last I heard, you can have Bill Springfield @ [email protected] tune a factory trigger to 4 1/2lbs. he also does 2 stage versions. |
+1 on Bill's ability to improve an AR trigger. Money well spent. |
I keep hearing about how good the trigger on the Colt defender is. I may have to pick one up. |
Thanks, that is what I was thinking. If I were building a bench gun I would have to look into it, but this is just a shoot-em-up gun. I have guns that are ment for long range accurate shooting. I will probably start with the standard trigger and then replace and or have it tuned up down the road if I don't like it. |
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