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3/26/2008 5:51:06 PM EDT
How hard is it to swap out my current upper with a new flat top upper?  Are there any tools necessary? Can anything go wrong (screw up accuracy)?  I have no experience, but am willing to give it a try.   My other alternative is to sell my current gun and by a new one.   What do you think?
3/26/2008 6:04:38 PM EDT
[#1]
???  Have you even broke open your AR to clean it?
3/26/2008 6:06:37 PM EDT
[#2]
I've cleaned it many times, and I ve had the hand gaurds off....that's about it.
3/26/2008 6:10:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Push out the pin at the back, the one you take out to get at the insides the clean.
Now push out the pin at the front - the one it pivots on.
Upper now falls off onto your foot.

Reverse the procedure to mount the new one (dropping it on your foot is optional).
3/26/2008 6:17:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Philip, sorry for the confusion, but I am trying to replace the upper only.  Thus I want to use my old barrel etc.
3/26/2008 6:19:35 PM EDT
[#5]
Sorry... I should have said upper receiver
3/26/2008 6:20:32 PM EDT
[#6]
toughest part is removing the barrel nut and it isn't that difficult if you have the proper tools
3/26/2008 6:23:03 PM EDT
[#7]
what will I need to spend on tools?
3/26/2008 6:29:04 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
what will I need to spend on tools?


$35 wrench should do it.

Jay has them, and he's a great guy too!  I recommend getting the AR15-068 one.

3/26/2008 6:31:12 PM EDT
[#9]
I believe the wrench runs about $15-35 depending on type and action clamp block runs about $30-40.
Bench top vise is a must
eta: I'm slow
3/26/2008 6:36:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Does everything fall into place.....I don't want to lose any accuracy or reliability.
3/26/2008 6:41:34 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Does everything fall into place.....I don't want to lose any accuracy or reliability.

yep
3/26/2008 6:44:05 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks...sounds like I'll give it a try
3/26/2008 6:53:33 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
I believe the wrench runs about $15-35 depending on type and action clamp block runs about $30-40.
Bench top vise is a must
eta: I'm slow


+1, get a vice block too!
3/26/2008 7:03:56 PM EDT
[#14]
            I have looked at doing this (and I have the tools on hand) and it doesn't really work out. If you have an upper given to you or you have some oddball special parts that you want on the upper go ahead but otherwise it doesn't work out.

           You spend money for tools and upper and you wind up with an upper you like better and a pile of used parts that have little value.                                                
Buy the upper you want (new or used) and sell the perfectly good upper you have or hang on to it if you think you will get any use from it
3/26/2008 7:44:43 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
            I have looked at doing this (and I have the tools on hand) and it doesn't really work out. If you have an upper given to you or you have some oddball special parts that you want on the upper go ahead but otherwise it doesn't work out.

           You spend money for tools and upper and you wind up with an upper you like better and a pile of used parts that have little value.                                                

Buy the upper you want (new or used) and sell the perfectly good upper you have or hang on to it if you think you will get any use from it


Huh?
3/26/2008 8:03:49 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I believe the wrench runs about $15-35 depending on type and action clamp block runs about $30-40.
Bench top vise is a must
eta: I'm slow


+1, get a vice block too!


And some molly grease.  For $3 a jar at auto store.
3/26/2008 8:43:54 PM EDT
[#17]
I've done a few upper swaps and installed a couple free float tubes...

It's not hard and you will learn a lot about your rifle.  There are some tacked threads taht cover it in this forum.

The only danger is if you have a turkey of an upper with a front sight base that is secured with straight pins.  I had one like that and I had to hack it off and replace it with a gas block/flip front sight.  But... I liked that way better than the old FSB, so I was happy.

Besides, you can always recoup a bit of your costs by selling your old upper on the EE.

You will not regret spending a few bucks on the tools.  Especially if you have friends who also like AR's.  Seems like you find yourself using them a lot when you get more confident and want to do more tinkering.

+1 on the moly grease.  You do NOT want your barrel nut siezing unto your upper.
3/26/2008 9:39:04 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
            I have looked at doing this (and I have the tools on hand) and it doesn't really work out. If you have an upper given to you or you have some oddball special parts that you want on the upper go ahead but otherwise it doesn't work out.

           You spend money for tools and upper and you wind up with an upper you like better and a pile of used parts that have little value.                                                

Buy the upper you want (new or used) and sell the perfectly good upper you have or hang on to it if you think you will get any use from it


Huh?


+1

I bought a DPMS NM upper on the EE.  Swapped out the upper receiver and front site for flat top replacements.  Made a nice varmint gun out of it.  

Used NM upper receiver for a CAR build.

Front site is going on my SBR.

If I hadn't used these parts on other builds I could have sold them on the EE.
3/26/2008 9:50:19 PM EDT
[#19]
1) Field strip rifle
2) Take the handguards off
3) Punch out the roll pin for the gas tube on the front sight
4) Pull out gas tube from upper (slide in, twist, pull out...no force)
5) Put upper in vice/block
6) Use wrench and unscrew barrel nut.
7) Remove barrel

Reverse, paying attention to start torquing the barrel nut at 30ft-lbs. Then rotate until gas tube can clear next tooth.

And voila...done.
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