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3/18/2008 2:49:24 PM EDT
I'm very new at this but have been reading the forums for the past few days and have done a decent amount of research.  Unfortunately, I live in NY so I am very limited in my options but   would like to get a 16" carbine very simple and relatively cheap as my first rifle.  As of now I'm thinking of getting a complete lower receiver assembled locally from http://www.lrbarms.com/m15sareceivers.html which will be $265  and get a complete upper assembly from Model 1 which comes out to $525 with 16'' AR15 Lightweight C.A.R. Upper Half, 5.56 NATO, chrome lined chamber & bore, 1-9 twist, target crown, BAN COMPLIANT; A3 w/removable carry handle, std aperture, $75.00 option; Front sight base w/std front sight; C.A.R. handguard, black; Bolt carrier group & std charging handle, $100.00 option.  I just wanted to know if you guys think this a good option for about $800 and if this is everything i need?  

Thanks, Matt.
3/18/2008 3:51:55 PM EDT
[#1]
You may want to consider one of the bargain bin items from CMMG -- they have complete AR-15's that are $570-625 and may do the trick:

CMMG Bargain Bin complete AR-15s

HTH!
3/18/2008 4:36:39 PM EDT
[#2]
I've shopped for AR's for years, and the cheapest way I have found, short of stumbling onto a bargain somewhere by dumb luck is to buy a complete rifle kit and assembling it to a stripped lower.

Stripped lowers can be had for just over $100 if you shop around.  Kits start at around $425 for a very basic carbine.

Buying a complete upper (with BC/CH) will usually run you at LEAST $400 by itself, and you would still need to get a buttstock and LPK to complete your lower.  You are looking at at least $100 for these...  

I would only buy a complete upper (as opposed to a kit) if I was planning to use it on an existing lower.  In practice though, I would rather save the $ to buy another lower, and spend $50 more and buy a complete kit.  I can always use the upper from my kit on my existing rifle while I scrape together the $ to get another lower.

In the meantime, I will have gotten a stock and an LPK for about the price of just an LPK...
3/18/2008 5:53:31 PM EDT
[#3]
thanks for the reply but I cant buy the ccmg rifle since ny laws are retarded.
3/18/2008 5:55:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for that info.  Price really isnt that big of an issue and I don't feel confident building a rifle from scratch.  I'm willing to spend about 800 I just hope to get the best quality for that price.
3/18/2008 6:34:11 PM EDT
[#5]
If you're unclear of the laws, or want state-specific info, check the Hometown forum through the link below all of the sponsor buttons.
3/18/2008 7:04:28 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Thanks for that info.  Price really isnt that big of an issue and I don't feel confident building a rifle from scratch.  I'm willing to spend about 800 I just hope to get the best quality for that price.


Yeah, you have a good point, but if you follow the instructions in the tacked threads in this forum it isn't bad to build a lower.  With $800 you could build a $1000 to $1100 rifle...

just something to think about...

Remember that if you buy a completed rifle, you are paying the federal excise tax on the whole price of the gun.  If you buy a lower receiver you are only paying the excise tax on the price of the lower.

Using this reasoning, I think your best buy would be to buy a finished lower AND a kit.  Then... sell the extra LPK and buttstock on the EE.  A kit is only around $40 to $50 more than a complete upper (meaning it includes the BC/CH) and you could get an easy $100 out of the parts you'd have left over...

I see R Guns has good prices on completed lowers in Shotgun News...
Just food for thought...
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