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9/17/2007 4:10:21 PM EDT
Ok, this will probably win the dumbest question of the month award, but here goes...

I was trying to knock out the roll pin on the rear of the trigger guard (to replace it with a magpul).  I used a 1/4 inch roll pin punch as specified in the lower assembly guide.

It seemed like it was taking some pretty good whacks to get it to budge, but it finally came out.  But now the punch is stuck in the trigger guard hole.  REALLY stuck.

I tried all of the obvious methods to get it loose, but it won't budge.  I tried to use a smaller punch and tap it out from the other side, but I was afraid to hit it too hard.

Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance!
9/17/2007 4:52:42 PM EDT
[#1]
What ever you do, make sure you are supporting the "ears" on the trigger guard, so you do not end up breaking one off.
9/17/2007 4:53:35 PM EDT
[#2]
Throw that sucker into your freezer till tomorrow. Support the guard ear and knock it out. It shouldn't take much.  I SURELY hope you meant 1/8" and not 1/4".

9/17/2007 5:02:09 PM EDT
[#3]
Lube or freeze.  I've had them get stuck, but they always wiggled out without any problems.
9/17/2007 5:30:15 PM EDT
[#4]
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Throw that sucker into your freezer till tomorrow. Support the guard ear and knock it out. It shouldn't take much.  I SURELY hope you meant 1/8" and not 1/4". hoops...yes
Thanks for the replies!
9/18/2007 3:59:32 AM EDT
[#5]
I'm on board with the freezer thing. Amazing what it will do.
9/18/2007 3:51:01 PM EDT
[#6]
Unfortunately the freezer didn't work.  I had already tried lube.

That thing didn't even budge.  I beat it trying to knock it out in both directions.  I was debating about asking for more suggestions, or trying to drill it out when I had an idea.

I clamped the receiver to my drill press table, lowered the spindle, and chucked the fat end of the punch as tight as i could.

Success!!  One small push down, yanked it up, and it popped out.  My receiver survived this experiment undamaged.  The only casualty was the punch i bent trying to tap the stuck one out.

Prior to this, my AR-15 work was limited to attaching a pre-assembled lower to a pre-assembled upper.  My question is, are all jobs this difficult?  I was planning on building my next AR...I already have 2 stripped lowers waiting.  Having this much difficulty with a trigger guard has me nervous.  
9/18/2007 3:58:51 PM EDT
[#7]
My thoughts are it was mushroomed before use. Go purchase a quality set (at least sears) to use only on your ARs. You should NEVER need enough force to mushroom a punch. If you think you might, use a different punch and not your dedicated AR punches.

  Happy that it worked out for you.
9/18/2007 3:59:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Glad you got it taken care of...

freezer would have been counterproductive in this instance.  Aluminum changes size more with heat variation than steel, so in this instance you would want to heat the aluminum to release the pressure.  Freezing the assembly would only make it tighter.

Freezing works on barrel nuts because the steel nut is on the outside of the aluminum receiver... opposite configuration of parts.
9/19/2007 5:20:07 AM EDT
[#9]
Nice job, way to think "outside the box". That little gem, plus the advice on the freezer, goes into the "mental toolbox" I keep.

No, not all jobs are this tough, but in all the assembling I have done, there is always some problem which requires "finesse" to straighten out. Looks like you got the finesse thing all worked out.
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