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1/19/2007 4:14:28 PM EDT
Was a good deal while it lasted.  
1/19/2007 4:17:42 PM EDT
[#1]
Ive been thinkin about a STAG upper for my lonely lower, if I dont spend all my money tommorrow at the fun show I may just get one
1/19/2007 4:21:10 PM EDT
[#2]
EagleFirearms has ridiculously low mark ups on some stuff, unless they are getting a huge discount off of the regular wholesale price by placing HUGE orders. I've seen lowers that I think they only were marking up about $ 10-15.
1/19/2007 4:33:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Times are about the same for ARs as the early 1980s, When you could buy a new Colt carbine for $400, but they are not so good for other guns, in 1982 you could buy a NIB  HK 91-93 or 94 for $350!


Quoted:
This is amazing.

Complete Stag M4 chrome lined upper WITH ARMS BUIS from Eaglefirearms for $450

plus

Complete M4 lower receiver from Ameetec for $200


That is a ready to go brand new chrome lined M4, WITH an ARMS #40 BUIS, all for $650????

This may not be the golden age for ammo.... but it certainly is for weapons we cant afford to feed.  
1/19/2007 4:36:44 PM EDT
[#4]
The title to the thread is contradictory. (As you have shown you can build one for that cheap)

Now for the super uber econo build I can do the same with a stainless barrel and a free float rail system for $50 more.

Just have to know where to shop.

1/19/2007 4:43:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Thats a good deal. With the BUIS it is even better! I doubt that you can build one with those features for that. I like the 1/7 better than the 1/9 but there are a lot of guys out here running the 1/9.
I would jump on that!
1/19/2007 4:55:15 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
The title to the thread is contradictory. (As you have shown you can build one for that cheap)


I dont call snapping an upper on a lower "building" anything.  


Now for the super uber econo build I can do the same with a stainless barrel and a free float rail system for $50 more.

Just have to know where to shop.



Post your parts links.  I dont buy it.
1/19/2007 5:32:58 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:

...

Now for the super uber econo build I can do the same with a stainless barrel and a free float rail system for $50 more.

Just have to know where to shop.



Post your parts links.  I dont buy it.


+1, I agree, or whatever... seems like a great deal to me and I can't "assemble" one for $650 with "my connections"!  

Don't even ask about the one I "built"!  
1/19/2007 5:57:31 PM EDT
[#8]
For those that prefer RRA.

New M4 uppers for $429.99 delivered.  No BUIS though.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=388765
1/19/2007 5:59:54 PM EDT
[#9]
funny, I just talked my business partner to buy his first AR. I convinced him to purchase this exact same upper from Eagle firearms. I'll order up superior arms complete lower for 215.00 from RBprecision on monday. In addition, I had him order a six pack of straight 20 rounds mags from 44mag

665.00 is a great price for a very nice 1st AR
1/19/2007 6:40:55 PM EDT
[#10]
dang man, why didnt you show me this last week
1/20/2007 6:38:34 AM EDT
[#11]
What makes a capitalistic society great is COMPETITION. Keep the government out of pricing and we have products we can all afford and no one gets overly filthy rich. The present trend doesn't look good.
1/20/2007 9:15:14 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I dont call snapping an upper on a lower "building" anything.  


Amen.
1/20/2007 10:03:58 AM EDT
[#13]
Try building a car from the parts counter. 15K car is 65K in parts. These are assembled at a factory with the economy of scale that you and I do not have. They sell them incomplete and miss the 10% or 15% (I forget which) tax that firearms have. So a rifle assembled by you from a complete upper and lower is always going to be cheaper than home assembly (from NEW parts) or new complete rifle.
1/20/2007 10:11:36 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I dont call snapping an upper on a lower "building" anything.  


Amen.


OK did I build mine? Stripped lower. LPK, Telestock, Complete Upper. I used the word Assembled and always get told Nice Rifle Ya built" ToMAYtoe ToMAHtoe
1/20/2007 10:21:34 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
OK did I build mine? Stripped lower. LPK, Telestock, Complete Upper. I used the word Assembled and always get told Nice Rifle Ya built" ToMAYtoe ToMAHtoe


I am not a word Nazi on this subject.  If you took a bunch of parts, and put them together, I think technically you "assembled" the AR15.... but "build" is interchangeable.

Some here feel "build" means you have to forge the lower yourself, or machine it from a forging, or from an 80%.... it just never stops.


Truly - the words are fairly interchangeable according to 4 of the most common dictionaries:


Assemble:



to put or fit together; put together the parts of
To fit together the parts or pieces of
create by putting components or members together


Build:



to construct (esp. something complex) by assembling and joining parts or materials: to build a house.
To form by combining materials or parts; construct.
To make something by combining materials or parts.
1/20/2007 11:10:14 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I am not a word Nazi on this subject.  If you took a bunch of parts, and put them together, I think technically you "assembled" the AR15.... but "build" is interchangeable.

Some here feel "build" means you have to forge the lower yourself, or machine it from a forging, or from an 80%.... it just never stops.


Truly - the words are fairly interchangeable according to 4 of the most common dictionaries:


Assemble:



to put or fit together; put together the parts of
To fit together the parts or pieces of
create by putting components or members together


Build:



to construct (esp. something complex) by assembling and joining parts or materials: to build a house.
Here lies the difference: There are kit houses where all of the studs, etc were precut, and hence, assembled.Most need the members cut to fit (i.e. built).
To form by combining materials or parts; construct.
To make something by combining materials or parts.


But it is mostly word play. The important thing is that we did it ourselves!

As far as cost effectiveness goes... I could have purchased a new AR for less than I have spent on some, but I eventually got what I wanted; even though it was more expensive than one out of the box.

buckmeister
1/21/2007 7:03:28 AM EDT
[#17]
How are the Ameetec lowers as far a quality?  Seems like a great price but I dont want to end up with a "Cheaper than Dirt" lower.

Does any one have a picture of the lower?  Just curious what the roolmark looks like.

TIA
Kevin
1/21/2007 8:36:10 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
How are the Ameetec lowers as far a quality?  Seems like a great price but I dont want to end up with a "Cheaper than Dirt" lower.

Does any one have a picture of the lower?  Just curious what the roolmark looks like.

TIA
Kevin


Have you tried their website?
1/21/2007 9:13:57 AM EDT
[#19]
Who actually gives a damn what other people consider a build? If you want to shove a frog in your nose and jump into a volcano singing I'm a yankee-doodle dandy wearing a Barney the Dinosaur t-shirt and call it an AR15 build,WHO CARES!? If it's your money and your AR so what? If it offends people,life is tough,get a helmet. I'm sick of people flaming others here because they don't do what you think they should do or think what you think they should,or hold their pee-pee the way you think they should when they potty. I haven't posted here much but read the heck out of the posts. To all those that actualy try to help,thanks. To those that are here for nothing other than to make themselves feel better , BAH!
1/21/2007 9:24:03 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
How are the Ameetec lowers as far a quality?  Seems like a great price but I dont want to end up with a "Cheaper than Dirt" lower.

Does any one have a picture of the lower?  Just curious what the roolmark looks like.

TIA
Kevin


Ameetec's lowers are beautiful.

To the OP:  Ameetec also sells a complete 16" CAR upper for $400, so you could consolidate shipping and be at $600 even before transfer.

1/21/2007 9:27:06 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
To the OP:  Ameetec also sells a complete 16" CAR upper for $400, so you could consolidate shipping and be at $600 even before transfer.


I looked at that - however - that is not chrome lined.  Their chrome lined upper is $430 (still a great deal) and that puts us at $630.

Also - their upper does not come with a BUIS.  The ARMS#40A2 is $89.  So - to be fair, and compare apples to apples - the Ameetec equivalent is $719.

PLUS - when you order a complete upper and lower at the same time - you have to pay the excise taxes for a complete weapon - getting that close to $800.

Not even close.  
1/21/2007 10:11:58 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
Who actually gives a damn what other people consider a build? If you want to shove a frog in your nose and jump into a volcano singing I'm a yankee-doodle dandy wearing a Barney the Dinosaur t-shirt and call it an AR15 build,WHO CARES!? If it's your money and your AR so what? If it offends people,life is tough,get a helmet. I'm sick of people flaming others here because they don't do what you think they should do or think what you think they should,or hold their pee-pee the way you think they should when they potty. I haven't posted here much but read the heck out of the posts. To all those that actualy try to help,thanks. To those that are here for nothing other than to make themselves feel better , BAH!


Well said tinmann (but the grammer and spelling nazi will be along soon) FALARAK give us a heads up on a great deal and some find it more useful to debate "build" or so and so has it for a better deal.

I for one bought another stag, and when I sell the BUIS (that I don't need) for 75.00 I'll have a complete chrome lined, gov profile, high quality upper @ 375.00 that an unbeatable price, period.

Most of the time I don't even post my good finds because of this exact reason
1/21/2007 10:15:51 AM EDT
[#23]
That upper is just what my brother needs to finish his AR.  I'll have to send him an e-mail.  That's a good deal.
1/21/2007 2:22:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Goodness gracious, that's a sweet deal! Nope, I can't build a kit using that type of components for less. Getting a chrome-lined barrel to go with the ARMS BUIS is a big deal for $450. Most vendors will ask that much for a non-chromed upper without a BUIS. This is a smoking hot deal. Thanks for posting it.

I need to grab one (or more) of those lowers as well while the prices are so good.

Folks, it is a common saying around this board that you should "buy it cheap and stack it deep". From the 90's up until just recently, that usually meant ammo. But now that ammo is outrageously expensive, it looks like one may be better off stacking receivers, uppers and magazines deep, as those are abundant and cheap right now.

1/21/2007 6:59:35 PM EDT
[#25]
I have a Stag upper and like it very much...  I agree about this being a great deal.  I could buy the complete upper and part my current set-up out and probably come out in the positive.
1/21/2007 7:48:33 PM EDT
[#26]
I am getting my Stag this week. WOOT!!!! Plus my giraudi trimmer. Oh I got a k98 this past week to for $160. I guess since santa didnt come for me this year I am being blessed for it now. Usually it takes me 2 years to get what I got in one month. Next a Aimpoint.
1/24/2007 3:24:46 AM EDT
[#27]
Hey all!  New - B here.  I am trying hard to get all the AR features acronyms and stuff down (i'm getting better) but my familierity with the details of manufacturers varies.  I figure with shipping and the transfer on the reciever that I am at $700 for this.  Not bad.  

What do I need to know about the manufacturers.  I.E. - Just what am I giving up from a Colt/LMT/CMMG etc?  And - Please don't fight! heat
Oh yeah, and are we sure these will go together?  I heard talk of pin differences and buffer differences.. again, I am probably sounding quite dunceish but I am trying.
1/24/2007 3:30:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Definately better than Blackthorne crapola.
1/24/2007 8:21:55 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Hey all!  New - B here.  I am trying hard to get all the AR features acronyms and stuff down (i'm getting better) but my familierity with the details of manufacturers varies.  I figure with shipping and the transfer on the reciever that I am at $700 for this.  Not bad.  

What do I need to know about the manufacturers.  I.E. - Just what am I giving up from a Colt/LMT/CMMG etc?  And - Please don't fight!  I am not trolling to heat things up.  I just want to get the differences striaght in my head.  I saw the Ameetec got a lot of good press on another thread.  How about the Stag upper (staked?, 4150.4140 etc etc....?) I think Stag uses 4140, but unless you're doing alot of full-auto shooting it shouldn't matter, especially at this price point.  Staking is hit or miss.  If it isn't sufficient you can do the staking yourself or send it to a dealer that has a MOACKS.  Ameetec uses commercial buffer tubes as of now, so if you want to put a Vltor, SOPMOD, or what have you stock on it you'll have to get a mil spec tube as well. Other than that the lower should serve you well.

Oh yeah, and are we sure these will go together?  I heard talk of pin differences and buffer differences.. again, I am probably sounding quite dunceish but I am trying. This upper and lower will snap together and should run right from the get go.
1/24/2007 8:28:11 AM EDT
[#30]
if the stag or ameetec name scares you, you can get a RRA lower for $209 from roseco

and a RRA m-4 upper from GDS for 429 shipped

Still a great deal
1/24/2007 10:13:01 AM EDT
[#31]
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funny, I just talked my business partner to buy his first AR. I convinced him to purchase this exact same upper from Eagle firearms. I'll order up superior arms complete lower for 215.00 from RBprecision on monday. In addition, I had him order a six pack of straight 20 rounds mags from 44mag

665.00 is a great price for a very nice 1st AR


I ordered this same setup yesterday. Tried for a ameetec, but there was little certainty of when they'd have there's in. Ordered complete lower 1/2 w/ 6 position, NM 2 stage and hogue grip for $282 shipped.

I probably could have shaved a few dollars parting and assembling, but I'm in a hurry to put one together for my cold-blooded wife. hould
regards,

Keib
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