midlenth barrel > Build It Yourself

Posted: 12/26/2006 7:35:52 AM EDT

OK.. I am interested in a middy barrel for $200 or less.... everywhere I look all I am seeing are middy UPPERS...OR barrels that cost as much a fully assembled upper!!
Does anyone sell just barrels... or maybe a barrel kit.

and obviously I am trying to get a midlegnth on the cheap.

Posted: 12/26/2006 7:48:52 AM EDT

[#1]

Rock River shows a standard chrome moly midlength for $190. I would try the equipment exchange to see if that price can be beat.

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:03:27 AM EDT

[#2]

I am a very similar boat. But I do not want a HBAR.

I want to build a lite weight build for the wife. I want the mid length because of the
better sight radius and smoother cycling.

Ideally a 14.5" w/ perm attached FH. If not, a 16" feather weight would work. Chrome lined is not a show stopper but preferred. I do not want a M4 config.

I am frustrated looking at barrels for >$300.

I am half tempted to buy one of the BM uppers with the SS barrel on EE and have the barrel turned. But that too adds cost.

The ones on EE I have seen go FAST so my luck there is slim.

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:21:23 AM EDT

[#3]

An HBAR is fine with me... but I for sure want the 16"
I am half tempted to buy a DEL-TON complete upper and selling the upper receiver on the EE
and 10-4 on finding one on the EE... I cant just live there.! every time I go there everything I am interested in is taken

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:54:45 AM EDT

[#4]

I can re-profile a Rock River under the handguards for $40 so you would be at $230 without chrome lining.
Of course you can buy a chrome lined CMMG for $250 that's already govt profile...

I have CMMG and Rock River chrome lined barrels in stock.

Posted: 12/26/2006 7:51:53 PM EDT

[#5]

I can re-profile a Rock River under the handguards for $40 so you would be at $230 without chrome lining.

I was looking at getting this done. I have a RRA middy/HBAR. how much weight would be shaved off or how much heavier would it be than say a 14.5 with a permantly attached flashhider in m4 config.?

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:01:30 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
I was looking at getting this done. I have a RRA middy/HBAR. how much weight would be shaved off or how much heavier would it be than say a 14.5 with a permantly attached flashhider in m4 config.?

This shaves about 14 ounces.
You end up maybe 3-4 ounces heavier than a 14.5" M4, partly because of the barrel length and partly because of the M203 cut that the M4 barrel has.

Posted: 12/26/2006 8:32:58 PM EDT

[#7]

Sabre Defence Inc middy bbl, .gov profile.
Best bbl you will find - think there is one in the EE for 290 or so.
Talonarms also carrys them for 300ish.

Posted: 12/27/2006 7:10:20 AM EDT

[#8]

I have a Del-Ton middy and it seems to me like it is a heavy barrel. Does anyone know what the diameter of the barrel is for a Del-Ton? I would like to put on a low profile gas block and rifle length handguards. I emailed Del-Ton and haven't heard back, but I figured somebody would know.

Posted: 12/27/2006 9:21:27 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
I have a Del-Ton middy and it seems to me like it is a heavy barrel. Does anyone know what the diameter of the barrel is for a Del-Ton? I would like to put on a low profile gas block and rifle length handguards. I emailed Del-Ton and haven't heard back, but I figured somebody would know.

Even with it being a heavy barrel, it's most likely 0.750" at the gas block.
There are 3 standards: 5/8", 3/4" and 15/16"
A simple ruler or tape measure would tell you what you have.

Posted: 12/27/2006 11:49:16 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I have a Del-Ton middy and it seems to me like it is a heavy barrel. Does anyone know what the diameter of the barrel is for a Del-Ton? I would like to put on a low profile gas block and rifle length handguards. I emailed Del-Ton and haven't heard back, but I figured somebody would know.

Even with it being a heavy barrel, it's most likely 0.750" at the gas block.
There are 3 standards: 5/8", 3/4" and 15/16"
A simple ruler or tape measure would tell you what you have.

Thanks, .750" it is. You threw me off when you jumped from .750 to 3/4"

Holding at 1" looks very close, if not a tiny bit under .750"

I wonder how it would look if I had it cut down under the handguards and after the block if I put on the rifle handguards? I assume I could do that and hide the tapered barrel and really lighten it up.

Posted: 12/27/2006 5:48:12 PM EDT

[#11]

Try m-aparts I bought a mid-upper about 4-5 years ago.
Great barrel and heavy all the way under the hand guards.
If you cant buy just the barrel call and see if you can get one with no b/cg ch hg.
Hope it helps.

Posted: 12/27/2006 6:26:10 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Try m-aparts I bought a mid-upper about 4-5 years ago.

After the Sean Cody incident, I would not give M&A any more business...
Here's a good summary:

I lurk here all the time and finally registered after going to the Reliant Gun Show in Houston yesterday. I have never seen anything like this. I had my two boys there with me and we witnessed the M&A guy attack a customer.

I think this guy from M&A parts was the owner. He is a stocky guy with a goatee.

Earlier in the day, I had seen the customer having some sights put on his Glock at the Glock spare parts booth (he was carrying his Glock concealed and chewing on a cigar) so I figure that guy was LEO. The night sights weren't the cheap kind either.

Anyway, A while later, I was at the M&A booth about to drop $800 or $900 dollars on an upper and parts when I see the Glock guy with the cigar again. He was wearing a blue pullover. He was talking to one of the helper bees at the M&A parts table and that guy told him the prices of a handful of rail covers. I know those things aren't cheap.

The Goatee guy came over and told the Glock guy a totally different price. I think the difference was over $35.00 from what the helper bee had told the customer. This large difference even caught my attention.

The Glock guy asked the M&A Goatee boy what the difference was and the M&A Goatee guy answered him like he was an idiot. I mean, he talked to him just like you would talk to some stupid retarded guy that was trying to date your sister.

The M&A guy's voice was mean, condescending and devoid of any ounce of customer service. The Glock guy said that was fine, and asked him if he took American Express. The M&A guy said no in that same condescending mean voice and took the Glock Guy's visa card. I would have told the M&A guy with the goatee to shove his parts up his rear end right there! The Glock guy didn't.

I was amazed that a vender would talk to a customer who was buying $100.00 of plastic rail covers like this.

I decided that I would not do business with these guy and spent my money elsewhere. In fact, I will never buy from M&A parts again.

After the Glock guy with the cigar handed the M&A goatee guy his credit card, the M&A guy screwed around for awhile and told the Glock guy that it wouldn't read his card. Why he didn't just punch the numbers in manually, I'll never know. That's not hard to do. The Glock guy had this annoyed look on his face and the M&A guy with the goatee told him "ITS NOT MY FAULT IT WON'T READ YOUR CARD!"

The Glock guy took his card back and asked the M&A Goatee guy if they took checks. The M&A guy responded in that same condescending tone of voice that they didn't. The Glock guy told him fine, he could keep his merchandise then and started to walk away. At no time did the glock guy get rude or say anything that was out of line to the M&A parts guy.

This is where it started to go bad. The M&A guy made a comment to the Glock guy about his attitude (which I had not seen a bad attitude from the Glock guy yet).

The glock guy stopped walking away and told the M&A goatee guy that he was the one with the crappy attitude and proceeded to detail each instance of his bad attitude and poor customer service from start to finish.

The M&A Goatee guy told the glock guy with the cigar that he could take his bad attitude somewhere else (which I thought the glock guy was trying to do) and then the Glock guy told him "Fuck You" and turned and walked down the aisle toward Lone Star Gun safe's booth.

The M&A goatee guy started yelling "SIR" SIR" "SIR" "SIR" "SIR" after the Glock guy like a little girl whose feelings were hurt and then ran out into the aisle after his former customer.

This is where I decided that the M&A guy with the goatee was proving that not only was he stupid, but that he was trying to become a candidate for the Darwinism award.

The M&A Goatee guy grabbed the glock guy's shoulder (1st mistake), spun him around, put his face into the Glock guys face & yelled "FUCK YOU" in his face. there faces where inches apart. I think the M&A guy actually stuck his eye onto the end of the Glock guy's cigar. Luckily for the M&A Goatee guy the Glock guy was only chewing the cigar and it wasn't lit.

The M&A Goatee guy then proceeded to try to swat the Glock guy’s cigar out of his mouth. He hit the cigar.

The Glock guy grabbed the M&AQ guy's collar and pushed him back. The M&A Goatee guy made a grab for the Glock guy's collar at which time the Glock guy finished the fight:

The Glock guy grabbed the M&A guy by the THROAT & squeezed. It looked like he squeezed it real hard. The M&A guy suddenly stopped running his mouth and talking smack tothe Glock guy with the cigar!

I thought to myself, the Glock guy with the cigar just went Darth Vader on M&A guy: fingers around the adams apple, squeezed hard enough for the M&A Goatee boy's eyes to pop out (looked like one of those dolls that have the pop out eyes that pop out when you squeeze them. Looked him in the eyes and told him in a very loud voice that he was going to kill him right there and squeezed his throat even harder.

It was amazing. It looked like Darth Vader had come to Houston. The M&A Guy's face was turning red, eyes popping out and the Glock guy was just standing there, fingers inserted into the guy's adams apple and wind pipe, chewing on his cigar, holding his bag of stuff with the most chilling look I have ever seen on a guys face. I thought the Glock guy wasn't going to let go of the M&A Guy's throat until he was dead.

Some other people intervened and the Glock guy let the M&A goatee guy go and started to walk off. The M&A guy apparently wanted to be embarrassed some more and decided that having his throat almost ripped out once that day wasn't enough and followed after the Glock guy a second time. I thought the glock guy was going to test out his new night sights on this moron, but he didn't. Four or five really big guys came out of nowhere and stopped the M&A guy from getting embarrassed a second time.

I was shocked that my two boys had to witness any of this. The way the M&A Parts guy with the goatee talked to the guy with the Glock and then the attack. At least my boys saw one way to stop a stupid bully. Grab his throat and choke the life out of him. BUT, they should not have to see this stuff at a gun show

Posted: 12/28/2006 6:18:07 AM EDT

[#13]

Well I ordered on line & never had to deal with that.
I like many others here have seen dealers act like Major Assholes at gun shows.
More often than not I find bad cust-service from most vendors, It seems to find friendly and good cust service is more rare.

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