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Posted: 10/21/2005 12:20:50 PM EDT
| Ok soon I'm going to be coming into a small amount of money and want a new AR. Specifically a RRA Carbine with a flat top upper. I want a flip up rear sight. Later I'll stick an Eotech on it. Anyway. How could I get out cheaper? Buying the rifle complete, or buying the upper and lower seperatly. I'd like one day to get a suppressed .40 or .45 upper for it. Does that affect my lower choice now? SCHOOL ME! |
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Buy the RRA upper without the carry handle, and you will save yourself $100. If you are getting a BUIS anyway, the cary handle isn't going to be of much use. Check around locally and see what you can buy the RRA as a complete weapon for. It may or may not be cheaper than buying in two pieces. You pistol caliber upper won't matter and will work with your lower. |
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to get out cheaper, buy the lowe reciver, buy the upper, buy the lower parts kit, put it together or if you want to spend a bit more and get a WAY better rifle, just buy the parts you want and a $50 set of tools and assemble it completely from parts. That's what I'm doing. I'm personally looking at having spent about $750 for a sub 6 lb carbon ar with flip up irons. Probably gonna trhow some holo sight on it later myself. And that includes a fair number of upgraded parts like a RRA 2 stage trigger, the irons, even an MPI inspected bolt and carrier. Reliable, light, and cheap, perfect to compliment my AK's! :-) |
Pete at Legal Transfers was great to do buisness with. I got a complete RRA A4 20" Upper from him and he beat any price I've seen for one new. You should send him an email he can probably get what you want from RRA. |
| 2400 postings, and you're asking" new guy" questions?? Am I missing something here? Are you reading the threads available here? Lots of people here are more than happy to help newbies with their questions (even stupid questions - no problem!), but you, with 2400 postings, I have a problem!! Maybe you should read more and talk less. |
Posts in GD add up. He might have stayed away from the tech forums before. BTW, post count is, by NO means, a way of measuring experience  WIZZO |
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since you seem to be concerned with money and you want a .40 or .45 suppressed upper eventually, two things come to mind: 1. an Olympic Arms upper receiver and 2. a Cavalry Arms or Eagle Arms one-piece lower receiver. a pretty good setup i'm hearing is a Cav Arms Mark 2 lower and a Hahn Precision magazine adpter block mated with an Olympic Arms upper. this setup takes unmodified M3 Grease Gun magazines (that are a lot cheaper than modified Uzi magazines). this looks to be the cheapest way to make a .40 or .45 carbine so far. keep in mind that because of force and weight differences you'll also need a seperate buffer (and possibly more) for this gun. it's probably more convenient to make it a dedicated weapon in the end, not just an upper. if you're really interested, take a peek around the pistol caliber forum, some real beauties hanging out there. my personal fav is SimplyDynamic's 9mm, it's awesome even if it has an HK flash suppressor on it. tweeter |
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LoL. Despite the name AR15.com does have more to it than AR-15s. I came here to meet other gun nuts from my area and got involved in a lot of GD and team discussions. Any tech forum participation I've had was either asking so as to learn, or talking about things I do know about. |
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What the Fuck!?!?!!? The first thing I noticed after your winking bloody eye was the post count!! Do you sit here 24/7 and use this as a chat room type of thing, constantly hitting refresh? Jesus Christ!! 1200 posts per month? Maybe closer to 1800? That's 30 to 50posts per day! |
It's about 30 lol. I don't have anything to do at work about 6 hours a day, but I have to be there. Can't have visitors, or finger fuck my guns in case someone comes in. So what do you propose that would be better. As I've said before, If the mods or staff can check, I invite them to, probably over 90% of my posts are during the day, M-F when I'm at work bored and only have the friendly  internet.
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31.86 posts per day. what do you talk about? just kidding. yeah, you needs a parts kit, a stock, a barrel, an upper (may or may not come with a bolt, bolt carrier or charging handle) and a lower. some kits come with a lot of parts, some don't. if you want an easy way out, go with a complete upper (with bolt, carrier, handle and barrel) and a complete lower (with a stock, pistol grip and internals) and just slap them together. if you want an idea of how in-depth the fine details of picking parts can be, keep this in mind: there is an entire set of forums on this weapon system here, you can do a lot with it. if you really need a visual, look at a disassembled schematic of the weapon with all the parts labelled. you can exchange virtually every part of this weapon with an aftermarket/improved/custom version. it doesn't sound like you're very hands-on experienced with the weapon system, so my suggestion would be to stay simple. buy a completed gun. if you insist on getting your feet wet right off the bat, money be damned, buy a completed upper and a completed lower and then maybe experiment with installing the stock of your choice for a starter project. if you want room to expand (once you learn the rifle and then learn to shoot the rifle) get an upper with a flat-top (NATO spec 1913/ Picatinney) rail. this way you can add an optical sight later if you desire. you can use a regular carrying handle with a sight (about $100 most places), or get a flip up back-up-iron-sight ($80-$100+ most places)... which you'll probably end up putting on the rifle in the end anyways, optic or not. have fun! tweeter Raoul says: "Goddamn it man, someone's feeding these animals booze!" |
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If you order an upper from RRA and don't check or uncheck any boxes, you won't need to buy a barrel or bolt/carrier etc. Buying a complete lower is just like a complete upper. Complete lowers from RRA come with everything installed. You receive that through your FFL and the upper through the mail or UPS at home. |
Yeah, it'll be a flattop upper, I want an Eotech on it later. My only experience with the AR system is shooting it and drooling over friends Carbines. It'll mostly be for 3 gun matches. Like my USPSA and IDPA competitions, I want to keep as "real" as possible. For USPSA I use the same rig (holster, gun, mag holder, mags) as I do IDPA. So I won't be stacking all kinds of shit on it. Eotech, and maybe a tango down grip. Probably and ACE stock. Or maybe a Magpull stock if I can find one to mess with before I order it. Most regular collapsible stocks I've seen are loose. I know the AR system shouldn't be 100% solid, but the collapsible stocks I've seen are too loose for me. |
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