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6/26/2005 3:33:19 PM EDT
Ok. I need some help guys. I just removed a Wilson Comp from my barrel and it took a lot of muscle to get it off. Problem is...the threads now look a little messed up. It is only about half way up that the problem areas appear. Am I safe to just install the new phantom flash hider??? Check out the pic below and let me know what you think.

6/26/2005 4:53:14 PM EDT
[#1]
I believe the Wilson Comps were setscrewed and then blind welded to comply with thw AWB, by unscrewing it without drilling out the setscrews  it looks like the threads got flattened a bit.  You might be able to clean them up with the correct die.
6/26/2005 5:01:38 PM EDT
[#2]
You can order the die from Brownells, but it's a little expenive for a one time use thing.

I had one that was a little messed up like that and I just oiled it heavily and used a large handle on the wrench as I cranked the A2 flash hider on.  I don't know if I'd be able to unscrew the A2 hider but it has stayed on and accuracy is still the same as before.
6/26/2005 5:15:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Use a small "V" needle file to chase the threads.  
6/26/2005 5:31:29 PM EDT
[#4]

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You can order the die from Brownells, but it's a little expenive for a one time use thing.

I had one that was a little messed up like that and I just oiled it heavily and used a large handle on the wrench as I cranked the A2 flash hider on.  I don't know if I'd be able to unscrew the A2 hider but it has stayed on and accuracy is still the same as before.



I'd like to go with the cheap method (oil and muscle). Anyone else think I'll be fine using that method?
6/26/2005 5:33:50 PM EDT
[#5]

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Use a small "V" needle file to chase the threads.  



Can you explain "chasing" to me in a little more detail? This is all new to me.  
6/26/2005 7:29:23 PM EDT
[#6]

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Use a small "V" needle file to chase the threads.  



Can you explain "chasing" to me in a little more detail? This is all new to me.  


'Chasing' is recutting existing threads.  If you had a bare, unthreaded piece of metal then you'd be cutting threads.  By cleaning up the existing threads, with a file or a die or just forcing a flash hider over it you are chasing the threads.   Basically just get a very small V-shaped file and run it through the channels of the remaining threading to open them up large enough for the flash hider to fit on.
6/26/2005 7:36:11 PM EDT
[#7]

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You can order the die from Brownells, but it's a little expenive for a one time use thing.

I had one that was a little messed up like that and I just oiled it heavily and used a large handle on the wrench as I cranked the A2 flash hider on.  I don't know if I'd be able to unscrew the A2 hider but it has stayed on and accuracy is still the same as before.



I'd like to go with the cheap method (oil and muscle). Anyone else think I'll be fine using that method?





i would not go that route!!!! all you will end up doing if the threads are actually damaged is mess it up even more along with the flash hider.


if the flashhider threads on then your fine, if not use the proper tools to clean up the threads.  hard to tell from your pics cause all i see is what looks like lint and flash.
6/26/2005 9:55:41 PM EDT
[#8]

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You can order the die from Brownells, but it's a little expenive for a one time use thing.

I had one that was a little messed up like that and I just oiled it heavily and used a large handle on the wrench as I cranked the A2 flash hider on.  I don't know if I'd be able to unscrew the A2 hider but it has stayed on and accuracy is still the same as before.



I'd like to go with the cheap method (oil and muscle). Anyone else think I'll be fine using that method?





i would not go that route!!!! all you will end up doing if the threads are actually damaged is mess it up even more along with the flash hider.


if the flashhider threads on then your fine, if not use the proper tools to clean up the threads.  hard to tell from your pics cause all i see is what looks like lint and flash.



Yeah, sorry the pic wasn't the best. I got it on though. It seemed to thread on just fine. But it took a lot of muscle to get it on there. I don't think it will be coming off. Seems to have worked out ok. I thought I was gonna bend the barrel I was twisting on it so hard. You can't actually do that can you???
6/26/2005 11:03:10 PM EDT
[#9]
Is it possible to bend a heavy bushmaster barrel by hand??? I don't think I did, but I really had to put something on it to get that flash hider on. Anyone ever done that/heard of it happening???
6/27/2005 7:50:35 AM EDT
[#10]
Bump for morning help! See last question posted above. THanks in advance for any help...
6/27/2005 8:43:51 AM EDT
[#11]
I doubt you have the strength to bend an HBAR without the use of a really stong clamp on one end and a really long lever on the other.  

But how were you supporting/holding the barrel and how large of a wrench were you using?  
6/27/2005 8:51:37 AM EDT
[#12]

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I doubt you have the strength to bend an HBAR without the use of a really stong clamp on one end and a really long lever on the other.  

But how were you supporting/holding the barrel and how large of a wrench were you using?  



Oh..proper tools are far to advanced for me. I went the REALLY low tech method on it. A buddy and I held it down on a bench with a towel supporting the forend handguard and receiver. I used a regular 6 inch wrench on it to get it done. I had my hand on the FS to hold on to it. I think I'm just imagining things. It's probably stright as an arrow.  How can I find out for sure???
6/27/2005 8:55:44 AM EDT
[#13]
This is AMORER LEVEL MAINTENANCE!
6/27/2005 9:03:38 AM EDT
[#14]

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I doubt you have the strength to bend an HBAR without the use of a really stong clamp on one end and a really long lever on the other.  

But how were you supporting/holding the barrel and how large of a wrench were you using?  



Oh..proper tools are far to advanced for me. I went the REALLY low tech method on it. A buddy and I held it down on a bench with a towel supporting the forend handguard and receiver. I used a regular 6 inch wrench on it to get it done. I had my hand on the FS to hold on to it. I think I'm just imagining things. It's probably stright as an arrow.  How can I find out for sure???


Like I said, there's not much you could do to the HBAR barrel without a really long lever.  BUt if you were supporting it by the receiver then you may have don't something to the receiver.  Most likely though you only thought you were putting a lot of effort into it because you didn't have a good grip on the barrel.
6/27/2005 9:55:57 AM EDT
[#15]

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This is AMORER LEVEL MAINTENANCE!



You've already done one thing wrong with muscle, by muscling the pinned and welded Wilson Combat brake off.  Do the right thing and get the proper thread die and fix it right.  The more you do wrong, the more trouble you will get into, to the point of possibly having to cut off the FUBAR'd part and rethreading a new area.  As markm says, fix it right or have somebody else fix it right.
6/27/2005 10:33:42 AM EDT
[#16]

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This is AMORER LEVEL MAINTENANCE!



That's amore!
6/27/2005 1:26:40 PM EDT
[#17]
It IS possible to screw up an A2 barrel this way.  I have one of those Guatemalan M16 barrels with the lands/grooves tweaked by several degrees where some ox over torqued the flash supressor.  
6/28/2005 4:10:03 AM EDT
[#18]

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It IS possible to screw up an A2 barrel this way.  I have one of those Guatemalan M16 barrels with the lands/grooves tweaked by several degrees where some ox over torqued the flash supressor.  




its possibel to screw up any bbl threads by over torqueing it.


not recommended but i guess some do it anyways.
6/28/2005 7:17:28 AM EDT
[#19]

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It IS possible to screw up an A2 barrel this way.  I have one of those Guatemalan M16 barrels with the lands/grooves tweaked by several degrees where some ox over torqued the flash supressor.  




its possibel to screw up any bbl threads by over torqueing it.


not recommended but i guess some do it anyways.



The barrel threads look fine.  at the barrel/thread junction inside, you can see a trench, like a casehead separation, and the lands/grooves displaced either axially or radially.
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