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| Wilson makes their bull barrels. I don't know who makes their other barrels. Oly made all of their barrels back about 8-10 years ago, then DPMS started getting the bull barrels from Wilson and I don't know who they get the others from now. I know they don't make their own though. |
No, DPMS does not chamber and crown, in house. They buy barrel blanks and have other machine shops do the profiling, chambering, crowning ect. DPMS does have a lathe but they only use it on a rare occation where a barrel needs to be shortened or something minor. I deal with DPMS quite regularly and this information came directly from them. |
Ya, that is EXACTLY how I would have phrased the fact that they DON'T do it in house, but they check the specs when they get back from the machine shop. I rifle my own barrels and forge my own receivers too. Well.....I check them when I get them to make sure they are to spec. anyway.......that's the same thing, isn't it? |
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Yes, Wilson normally makes very good barrels. I have one of the 1:9 bull barrels that is a fantastic "tack-driver" I got another one for one of my sons and it was just so-so, about the best it would do was .700 no mater what I did. By my post, I was certainly not trying to put DPMS down, I have done and still do a fair amount of business with them. I have delt with some of the people there for years. I was an industrial Consultant in manufacturing engineering up until I retired. I know that certain parts or procedures are often out-sourced to stay competitive, but there is a difference between "manufactures" and "assemblers". quote]Originally Posted By A_Free_Man: This is the way almost all mfg is done these days. You farm out certain operations to those that can meet your specs and price. You CAR is just a parts car. The components are all farmed out to other businesses. Ditto your stereo, your computer, etc. Yes, take a car for instance, many of the parts are produced by a "third party" and brought on-site for assembly. But if you go to the Ford plant, you will find "True manufacturing". Sure the starter or the alternator was not manufactured on-site but the "manufacturing facility" is buzzing with robotic welders, computerized balancers, overhead assembly lines and so on. That's a big difference than what you will find at some of the AR manufactures. I have been in several of them before I retired and some of them are "manufactures" with huge amounts of machining centers and turning centers, some of them just assemble. If you think that a few guys siting at a bench with a soft-faced hammer and a set of roll-pin punches constitutes a "manufacturer"....you should get out more. It doesn't mean they don't put out a good product, just they don't "manufacture" it. |
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Mardwell wrote If you think that a few guys siting at a bench with a soft-faced hammer and a set of roll-pin punches constitutes a "manufacturer"....you should get out more. What constitutes a "manufacturer" IS a little fuzzy these days. When a "manufacturer" buys an item from a vendor, and puts his name on it, he is saying in effect, "this is us." Whether he got it from vendor A or vendor B should not matter to the buyer, only that it meets the quality of product that expect to get when we pay that manufacturer X dollars. If that item meets those expectations, it does not matter if it were made inhouse or not. And this is how "manufacturing" is done these days. And I do get out quite a bit, thank you for your concern. 
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Oly makes their own barrels, they both broach and button IN HOUSE. I don't realy know if there are others that do or not. It seems that it's just to tough for you to swallow that there are "manufactures" and there are "assemblers" and DPMS is an assembler, I like them, I do business with them, I have product that they have assembled in my gun cabinet, but they are assemblers none the less. True, manufactureing is all to a certain degree. I did some cunsulting for a major "manufacturer" about 10 years ago. At that time they were making a form of an ATV. They made everything, in house, except for: Tires, light bulbs, batteries and a few other minor items. Since then they have out-sourced quite a bit of the plastic end of the product......They are still a manufacturer. |
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