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3/6/2003 12:24:40 AM EDT
I'm about to embark on a free float handguard project on my Bush National Match 20" upper. I have the Compass Lake free float tube, gas tube and precut handguards on the way and the few remaining tools I need to accomplish the job...

My question... removing the existing handguards... The military manual suggests using two people to perform this stage, and now special tools are being sold to make the job easier for a one man operation. I just tried pulling back on the delta ring on my 16" upper... and couldn't get the handguard to clear the front edge of it. I know there's a weld spring and a snap spring hidden under the delta ring... am I supposed to feel anything snap?
3/6/2003 12:43:31 AM EDT
[#1]
Buy the tool.

You may not need them to remove the old pair, but if your having problems with them, the Full Float tube pair is going to be beyond you.  

The reason for this is on the full float tube pair, when you set the overall tube length, you want it to be the same distances as the guards themselves, so when they are installed, there is no free movement in the hand guards.
3/6/2003 10:29:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Buy the tool.
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Tool ordered... it just scared me a little. All the leverage seems to come from a large pin that sticks in the mag well. I hope the aluminum receiver is up to the torque.
3/6/2003 10:32:11 AM EDT
[#3]
I've done it by hand up till now and am quite over it.  I have a tool on order!
3/6/2003 11:24:07 AM EDT
[#4]
I use the military buddy system; I get my wife to help and she bitches the whole time. [banghead]

Hmmmmm Maybe it would be better to pry open the wallet and buy that tool.
3/6/2003 11:46:10 AM EDT
[#5]
The AR15 Handguard removal tool

[url]http://quartz2.cyberstation.net/~dwpaul/hgrt.htm[/url]
3/7/2003 12:11:51 AM EDT
[#6]
I built the tool a few months ago.  It's ugly compared to the commercial versions, but it works.  Cost me a few dollars because I didn't have any tubing lying around.  
3/7/2003 12:12:13 PM EDT
[#7]
Being one of those who's so tight you can't blow my wallet open with an a-bomb to reveal money I made one from some graphite rod (dead fish-pole) and some nylon line.  The line keeps the distance from the rods the same, and another piece of line goes back around the other side.

Just pull down and they come off.  Figured that one out last PM.
3/19/2003 5:32:12 PM EDT
[#8]
You don't need a buddy and you don't need a tool, you only need practice and determination. In the Army, late eighties, we had the triangular grips exclusively. The newer styles make me pause for a moment, but I can still pop any of them off in three or four seconds each. Don't let it whup ya!
3/19/2003 6:35:23 PM EDT
[#9]
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You don't need a buddy and you don't need a tool, you only need practice and determination. In the Army, late eighties, we had the triangular grips exclusively. The newer styles make me pause for a moment, but I can still pop any of them off in three or four seconds each. Don't let it whup ya!
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I agree, I just pop them out, one side at a time.
3/19/2003 8:04:30 PM EDT
[#10]
i concur with the by hand method... never encountered any problems doing it that way...
3/19/2003 8:29:15 PM EDT
[#11]
Sit in a chair with the buttstock on your strong-side knee, put your strong hand slightly off the horizontal center, pull(!), and pop off the handguard on that side with your free hand.  Works every time without a hitch!  Spent the $20 on ammo.
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