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Posted: 12/28/2005 11:39:15 AM EDT
I did a search but couldn't find what I was looking for. In your opinion, what light mount would be the best for use on the right side of the weapons' forgrip to be activated with my weak thumb. (I'm a righty) Or is a pressure switch on the VFG the way to go?
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 3:04:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2005 3:04:33 PM EDT by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 5:16:05 PM EDT
I have the YHM 45d rail with the Vltor mount on M73. This is on a carbine length HG with tape switch. This gives me enough room to still have a good grip on the HG.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 7:55:51 PM EDT
Appox how much more comfortable are we talking about with the YHM off-set mounts? Is it difficult to engage the light without them or just a bit easier?
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 8:08:38 PM EDT
it depends on the size of your hands. i have a surefire m3 mounted with a n elchepo scope ring and it's not uncomfortable for me. i do like this though

Link Posted: 12/28/2005 9:52:57 PM EDT
+1 for the Viking Tactical mount. It works great and mounts very securely. Just make sure that you understand that it will mar the finish on your light. I use a Surefire G2 so it's a non-issue for me.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 10:12:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2006 10:20:17 AM EDT by MP906]
I have the Viking Tactical mount and it is great. IT puts the light real close to the rail so it is streamlined.

The only down side is it is plastic and the set-screws holding the light are a little cheesy IMO. Also, non-quick detach is a no-go for me.

Can anyone that has both the Viking and the DD tell me if they put the light in the same position, i.e. really close to the rail? Does anyone have a pic of the gap using the DD?

FYI, the YHM offset rail put my light WAY to far from the rail for me. There was like a 3/4" gap.

Link Posted: 1/3/2006 11:56:52 AM EDT
+1 for Daniel Defense mount.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:32:28 PM EDT
Daniel Defense.

Vikiing Tactics is ok, but I HATED that I had to have a wrench to take off the light.

The only thing I don't like about the DD is that the nut isn't captured, and you will lose the springs if you unscrew it too far.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 1:35:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/5/2006 10:53:45 AM EDT by QUIB]
+1 for the YHM mount, and for dealing with Calvin aka Brightflashlights.

The YHM mount puts my fat little stubby thumb exactly where it needs to be!

Link Posted: 1/3/2006 4:20:02 PM EDT

I found a pic of the DD mount.

It looks like it puts the light at about the same distance from the rail as the YHM.

Are there any off-set mounts that put the light in a position like the Viking, but are aluminum or steel and thumbsrcrew attached???
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 7:15:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 7:19:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:08:47 AM EDT

Ya, I tried both ways.

Is there anything else out there?

Link Posted: 1/4/2006 12:05:07 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:00:38 PM EDT

Sweet.

I'm looking to put the light 1/2" or less frm the rail. I'm not really concerned about shadowing.

I sold the YHM on the EE already.
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 12:38:27 PM EDT
Tagged for pics

Link Posted: 1/6/2006 6:19:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 6:23:23 AM EDT by choppahead]
I was searching around and found this from GG&G. Might be worth looking into. It's kinda pricy though. I see Impact Guns has it for $60. Maybe one of the dealers on this sight can do better. I would possibly be interested in it too if the price was right.
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 8:59:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/6/2006 9:01:19 AM EDT by cgv69]

Originally Posted By BrightFlashlights:

Originally Posted By MP906:
Ya, I tried both ways.

Is there anything else out there?




There's a Warne offset mount, I'll try to post pics ASAP.



Is this the one you are talking about? It doesn't look have a quick disconnect feature? Does look like it would mount close in, maybe almost too close?


PICATINNY SIDE-MOUNT ADAPTER
Link Posted: 1/6/2006 12:07:19 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/7/2006 4:25:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:34:38 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:58:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 12:04:27 PM EDT by BrightFlashlights]
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:49:10 PM EDT
Do rail covers work with that mount? I know with the Viking its to close to the rail for covers to fit on the neighboring rail.....
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 4:36:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 9:38:49 PM EDT
Can the offset mount be used on the top of a flat top AR, with the carry handle installed? In other words, can I use it for a light and still use the iron sights?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:06:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:11:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 11:12:33 AM EDT by Lancelot]
Yup...

Viking mount with Pentagon X3-HA





Link Posted: 1/10/2006 4:55:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 4:56:33 PM EDT by MP906]
Ok, I don't see a tapeswitch, how do you activate it up there?

I did 8 hours of CQB training today, mostly lowlight. I think I am going to have to shell out the cash for the Surefire tailcap that has both the button and tape switch. Even w/ an offset mount, it is hard to reach the light w/ your thumb when you are holding the weapon at odd angles, peaking around corners, etc.

$90 for a tailcap is hard to stomach though...
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:08:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
Ok, I don't see a tapeswitch, how do you activate it up there?

I did 8 hours of CQB training today, mostly lowlight. I think I am going to have to shell out the cash for the Surefire tailcap that has both the button and tape switch. Even w/ an offset mount, it is hard to reach the light w/ your thumb when you are holding the weapon at odd angles, peaking around corners, etc.

$90 for a tailcap is hard to stomach though...




Grab the VFG with my left hand. Thumb straight up ala Fonzie... I hold the gun that way anyway. It allows me to "drive" the gun more effectively. The light would also work on the nine-o-clock rail as well. But in this position I can reach the light, and it doesn't interfere with the forward sling mount when I run a three-point. If it were the two cell X2 I might not be able to reach it, or have to move it aft. It is also far enough forward it doesn't shadow off the FSB. (one of the advantages of the longer X3)

Some will run it on the three-o-clock rail because it is better for "slicing the pie" going through doorways, but I've found it depends on which side you slice from. Few of the guys I run with use tape switches.

I think Pentagon products are great, and the price tag is much more palitable to poor cops - and everyone else - then SureFire.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:31:44 PM EDT

Huh, still having a hard time picturing that, unless you have REALLY long thumbs

I need to be able to bi-lateral transition, so that wont work. I don't really want to go tape switch, but I think I'm going to have to. At least the new surefire tailcap has a button along w/ the tape switch.

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 9:35:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 9:36:43 PM EDT by Dogdad]
Has anyone ever seen a mount that stays on the gun but allows a flashlight to be quickly disconnected?

It would be nice to pull my stinger from my duty belt and put it on the rifle for longer periods of illumination instead of burning up lithiums.

It wouldn't be used for CQB, but more for keeping light on possible knuckleheads until we get a situation figured out.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 10:13:09 PM EDT
Well, since no one has heard of one, I'll change this post to a plea to any of the manufacturers that read this site to please look into creating a mount like this.

I think that it would work best with a throw mount so you don't waste time spinning a thumbscrew to snug down the light.
Link Posted: 1/19/2006 3:00:23 PM EDT
GG&G offset mount, and VLTOR ring.
Link Posted: 1/20/2006 9:13:05 AM EDT
Thanks for the pic. That is almost perfect for what I'm looking for. My big concern with the Vltor mount is that I have to loosen the mount on the rifle to insert or remove the light.

(I'd also prefer a throw lever, but that's just me being picky)
Link Posted: 1/22/2006 4:59:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2006 5:06:16 PM EDT
If you have a Surefire M series (mine's an M962), you could use this offset mount from LaRue. Not a low cost setup by any stretch, but it might be worth checking out...

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 2:13:00 PM EDT

Gus, could you take a pic of that from the top, like in the pic above yours. I need to see how far the light is from the raqil. I like it to be close.

I have a M95 and M96. Cost is no biggie, as long as it is what I'm looking for.

Link Posted: 1/23/2006 2:51:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
Gus, could you take a pic of that from the top, like in the pic above yours. I need to see how far the light is from the raqil. I like it to be close.

I have a M95 and M96. Cost is no biggie, as long as it is what I'm looking for.




Here you go:



Link Posted: 1/23/2006 4:09:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2006 5:59:58 PM EDT by INTrooper4255]
I tried to order the Larue Tactical LT117, like pictured above and everyone seems to be out of them, even Larue. Looks like a good setup though!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 3:08:22 AM EDT

That is exactly what I was looking for!

Thanks Gus.

Link Posted: 1/24/2006 3:12:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
That is exactly what I was looking for!

Thanks Gus.




Any time!
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:07:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:25:53 AM EDT
For those who have the thumbscrew style mounts, do you find that they work loose during long shooting sessions. I saw a guy at a recent class that had his thumbscrew mounted Surefire 962 almost fall off his gun after about an hour of shooting.
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 9:48:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/24/2006 10:10:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BrightFlashlights:

Originally Posted By INTrooper4255:
I tried to order the Larue Tactical LT117, like pictured above and everyone seems to be out of them, even Larue. Looks like a good setup though!



We have them in stock if you need one.

email: brightflashlights@gmail.com

BrightFlashlights.com



IM sent.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 4:43:15 PM EDT
I like the larue one, but it's expensive.

Is there any QD offset option other than Larue? E.g. real QD, not a screw?

I like the DD as well, but those springs are easy to lose.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:01:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 5:48:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcgrubbs:
Psst...don't tell anybody, but...

I have seen the concept pics of LaRue's new 1" off-set light mount. They are in production and should be going thru the anodizing process right now. It will feature his locking throw lever and "built tank tough" construction. Folks, I think he's got another winner on his hands.



The only piece of LaRue gear I own is the light mount, but I have to say it's built like a tank! I can see why there is so much uproar whenever LaRue introduces a new mount/rail/sight.
Link Posted: 1/25/2006 6:40:42 PM EDT

I just ordered the Larue mount.

I don't think it is that expensive, conidering the light it is for was $300.


I just hope it puts the light in a good spot for my thumb!
Link Posted: 1/26/2006 1:23:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MP906:
I just ordered the Larue mount.

I don't think it is that expensive, conidering the light it is for was $300.


I just hope it puts the light in a good spot for my thumb!




I think you'll be pretty happy. I bought it because when I switched to the TD grip, with the standard ARMS mount I had trouble reaching the switch. The LaRue mount lowered the light to the perfect location.
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