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9/15/2005 12:52:05 PM EDT
I had the occaision last night to use my Surefire to investigate noises on the hillside behind my house.  It was dark due to the shade trees.  I hit the button and HOLY SMOKES!  It lit up the entire hillside.  It has one of those super high output lamps in it but WOW!  I could almost feel recoil from all those photons exiting the lamp.  It makes my Maglites look like crap.

Very cool!
9/15/2005 12:55:12 PM EDT
[#1]

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I had the occaision last night to use my Surefire to investigate noises on the hillside behind my house.  It was dark due to the shade trees.  I hit the button and HOLY SMOKES!  It lit up the entire hillside.  It has one of those super high output lamps in it but WOW!  I could almost feel recoil from all those photons exiting the lamp.  It makes my Maglites look like crap.

Very cool!



Which model?


Welcome to the club.  

9/15/2005 12:58:27 PM EDT
[#2]
There's a reason some of us have dozens of the little buggers...
9/15/2005 1:46:05 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Which model?

Welcome to the club.  





I don't recall the model.  I believe it is a C2 Centurion (hard anodized, tail cap lock out,...)
9/15/2005 5:00:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Surefires give me a woodie
9/15/2005 9:54:01 PM EDT
[#5]
I checked  the light, it's an M2 Centurion (Millenium series).
9/16/2005 12:47:03 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
I checked  the light, it's an M2 Centurion (Millenium series).



You ought to try an M3 combat light or even bigger Surefire...   WOW!



Mark
9/16/2005 1:17:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Maglites are crap compared to even the lowly G2 surefires.   I keep a G2 in each vehicle along with a box of batteries.   At home it's the 9P and 9N rechargeable.   In my gunbelt it's a 6P.   On my midlength AR it's a 9P with Z32 bezel.   Yeah I've got a couple of em  
9/16/2005 8:01:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Now I'll show that I've never used one in combat or self-defense.  

They put out too much light, which is fantastic for searching.  But at night or in the dark they will give away your position like a beacon to the entire UNIVERSE!

You would have to tap it on and then scoot, processing the visual information AFTER you move.  And you'd better move fast and far, too or your ass is gonna have some holes in it.

The up side is, if the bad guys are in the open, you will see them.  If you hit them in the eyes with the light you will "blind" them.  But if you don't know where they are the chances of hitting them with the beam when you tap it on is low.  
9/16/2005 4:20:44 PM EDT
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Now I'll show that I've never used one in combat or self-defense.  

They put out too much light, which is fantastic for searching.  But at night or in the dark they will give away your position like a beacon to the entire UNIVERSE!

You would have to tap it on and then scoot, processing the visual information AFTER you move.  And you'd better move fast and far, too or your ass is gonna have some holes in it.

The up side is, if the bad guys are in the open, you will see them.  If you hit them in the eyes with the light you will "blind" them.  But if you don't know where they are the chances of hitting them with the beam when you tap it on is low.  



MIke...

There are techniques for just such situations, and I can tell you that too much light is almost always better than too little. "Light, shoot N scoot" is only one succefssful technique, but there are others. Take a long look here...

www.strategosinternational.com/
9/16/2005 5:11:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Use your hearing to identify the area of a potential target.   Wait and be patient, when you're reasonably sure of the location of your target you illuminate and engage.   If you're still in a threat area you go dark and move.  

 If you're in a defensive situation you wont be walking around with the light on like on tv.  
9/27/2005 3:49:01 PM EDT
[#11]
IMO any light you turn on in serious darkness requires you to use the tactics of stobe and move.
i don't care if it's one of those tiny keychain leds or 250 lumens.

when i'm playing the bad guy in training, ie lying in ambush, i can see the navigation leds on our m900's just fine as they're being strobed or better yet, when someone leaves them on too long or back lights someone accidently.

but, when you are being stalked by multiple properly strobing 225 lumen lights on sub machine guns, it's hard to figure out where a target is.  your vision gets messed up, you can hear them but until someone gets back lighted it's hard to see anyone.

being on a part time tactical team, it's hard to get enough training time.
10/2/2005 11:31:20 AM EDT
[#12]
The first time I used a Surefire 6p, which was my first Surefire product many years ago, I was hooked!  Unbelievable that the beam could be so concentrated at such a great distance.
10/8/2005 8:48:32 PM EDT
[#13]
I just bought a U2 the other day (with 5 months of pocket change saved up).  I love shining it in my co-workers faces!  Man, that pisses them off!
10/9/2005 7:04:39 AM EDT
[#14]
I carry a E2D, I the impact ends.
10/9/2005 2:06:10 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
MIke...

There are techniques for just such situations, and I can tell you that too much light is almost always better than too little. "Light, shoot N scoot" is only one succefssful technique, but there are others. Take a long look here...

www.strategosinternational.com/



+1

Learning how to read the conditions and appropriately use light is a tool that should be in everyones toolbox.
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