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12/28/2004 3:27:30 PM EDT
I'm tyring to convince myself what to get next for my M4, a Beta-C or OTAL With ARMS Throw Lever Mount. Can you guys put up some pictures and comments on the OTAL. I keep asking myself " Do I need this".  My heart says yes, my pocket says no.
12/28/2004 4:03:04 PM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
I'm tyring to convince myself what to get next for my M4, a Beta-C or OTAL With ARMS Throw Lever Mount. Can you guys put up some pictures and comments on the OTAL. I keep asking myself " Do I need this".  My heart says yes, my pocket says no.



I love my OTAL!


C4

www.gandrtactical.com



12/28/2004 7:59:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Ok, if the photo server is working again....



12/28/2004 8:10:31 PM EDT
[#3]
What do those bad boys run?  I'm too lazy to searh now, yes me's a luza.
12/28/2004 8:46:53 PM EDT
[#4]
12/29/2004 4:21:39 AM EDT
[#5]
i like mine too. i owe it all to grant

12/29/2004 4:52:06 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
What do those bad boys run?  I'm too lazy to searh now, yes me's a luza.



I sell them for $485.


C4

www.gandrtactical.com
12/30/2004 7:13:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Just a quicky question. I have the ARMS 45m, and was planning on getting an OTAL. It just dawned on me that the OTAL looks like it will completely obscure the front sight? Is that correct? and will the thumb screw model sit any lower as to make the front sight visable above the OTAL combined with the 45M? Any way to use the designated PEQ-2 mount of the arms with the OTAL? TIA
12/30/2004 7:21:03 PM EDT
[#8]
I love mine, thanks Grant, my only complaint is that the connector to the tape switch is a bit cheesey.  I much prefer a hardwired tape switch.  (Like my many year old LD Universal AR Vis Laser)  Also the OTAL is shipped with a RH connector, the straight connector is better.  Unfortunatly LD does not offer a LH connector.  

12/30/2004 8:51:42 PM EDT
[#9]
I'm selling mine, earlier model with thumb screw mount, let me know if interested
1/11/2005 6:50:18 AM EDT
[#10]
Duffy,

Pls email or IM me if you're still selling your OTAL with the details.  Thanks!

Will
1/11/2005 7:31:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Okay, I'm an A.R.M.S.® whore.....I love the products, concept, etc. Always looking for a way to use the products. I want to A.R.M.S.® mount my cell phone to my belt!

With that said, the thumb screws are more than enough for the OTAL. How often are you really going to take it off? Optics are different, you need to be able to pop those fast, but the OTAL? Just slap it on and crank it tight. Jusy my .02

Hep



1/11/2005 7:38:43 AM EDT
[#12]

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Okay, I'm an A.R.M.S.® whore.....I love the products, concept, etc. Always looking for a way to use the products. I want to A.R.M.S.® mount my cell phone to my belt!

With that said, the thumb screws are more than enough for the OTAL. How often are you really going to take it off? Optics are different, you need to be able to pop those fast, but the OTAL? Just slap it on and crank it tight. Jusy my .02

Hep

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/21stCenturyM1A_01.jpg



Well........alrighty then.

Have an M1A why don't you!    Nice gun Hep.  
1/11/2005 7:50:41 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Okay, I'm an A.R.M.S.® whore.....I love the products, concept, etc. Always looking for a way to use the products. I want to A.R.M.S.® mount my cell phone to my belt!

With that said, the thumb screws are more than enough for the OTAL. How often are you really going to take it off? Optics are different, you need to be able to pop those fast, but the OTAL? Just slap it on and crank it tight. Jusy my .02

Hep

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/21stCenturyM1A_01.jpg



Well........alrighty then.

Have an M1A why don't you!    Nice gun Hep.  



That's not an M1A, that's a BAD MOTHER F*&%#$!!!

C4
1/11/2005 8:09:34 AM EDT
[#14]

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I sell them for $485.

C4
www.gandrtactical.com



Grant,

Wasn't there some discussion of an OTAL Group Buy through you?  Did that die on the vine or is it maybe still in the works?
1/11/2005 8:24:44 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I sell them for $485.

C4
www.gandrtactical.com



Grant,

Wasn't there some discussion of an OTAL Group Buy through you?  Did that die on the vine or is it maybe still in the works?




I did run an OTAL group buy and it is now over.


C4
1/11/2005 8:27:51 AM EDT
[#16]

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I did run an OTAL group buy and it is now over.

C4



My bad - I completely missed it.
1/11/2005 8:38:29 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:


Have an M1A why don't you!    Nice gun Hep.  



That's not an M1A, that's a BAD MOTHER F*&%#$!!!

C4



Thanks fellas! Appreciate the comments.
1/11/2005 8:51:57 AM EDT
[#18]
tag.  earp needs one and is shopping.  Any other sources?  Used ones FS?  IM, please......
1/11/2005 12:45:00 PM EDT
[#19]
you see them here and there in the ee.



1/12/2005 9:43:29 AM EDT
[#20]

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img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg



Is it me or your OTAL is somewhat different? Mine has the screw on the right handside and the laser offset to left (like Duffy's). Are there two different models?
1/12/2005 9:54:14 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg



Is it me or your OTAL is somewhat different? Mine has the screw on the right handside and the laser offset to left (like Duffy's). Are there two different models?



Yes. You can get them with either a  thumb screw or an ARMS throw lever.


C4
1/14/2005 6:29:36 AM EDT
[#22]
Yes Grant, but its not what i meant.


Quoted:

Quoted:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg



Is it me or your OTAL is somewhat different? Mine has the screw on the right handside and the laser offset to left (like Duffy's). Are there two different thumb screw models?

1/14/2005 6:39:36 AM EDT
[#23]
Abri, Im not sure but I think it is an ital not a otal but I could be wrong.
1/14/2005 7:03:45 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
Yes Grant, but its not what i meant.


Quoted:

Quoted:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/hepcat85/AR154red.jpg



Is it me or your OTAL is somewhat different? Mine has the screw on the right handside and the laser offset to left (like Duffy's). Are there two different thumb screw models?




Ok, what is your question then????


C4
1/14/2005 10:27:52 AM EDT
[#25]
the only thing i noticed that is different in all the pics is that some have the thumbscrew on duffy's otal is on the right while the other have it on the left






then theres hepcat's otal on the ar which has the windage and elevetion adjustments on the right while the others have it on the left

also his has the laser and battery on the opposite side as well as the tape switch connetor.  sorta like is a lefty type deal






eta noticed hepcat's otal that is mounted on the ar has all the features on the opposite side.

connector
switch
battery
diode


what would that one be?  lefty?
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