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Posted: 3/28/2008 9:12:33 AM EDT
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I was at the fun show looking for a sling for my AR and the only sling I could find was a three point sling(I think, but not sure). I never have had any experience with slings before, at least not one this complicated. It came with three little straps that I believe goes around the handgaurd and but stock. I have just been using the clips on the sling to attach it to the AR at the sling attachment points. Does anyone have any links to websites to show me how to use my sling correctly? Thanks |
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Specter Gear has a nice page with images of the different ways you can use a 3 point sling. The most common, by far (I think), is what they call the off-side drop. It places the weapon in a controlled position which doesn't interfere with your sidearm (if you have one), and from which the rifle can be quickly brought into action again. It also does so without interfering with anything you're carring on your back, assuming you can work the sling strap around or over it. www.spectergear.com/carryoptions.htm As to connection methods, that varies with the sling and with the specific rifle or shotgun model and configuration. Ideally, you'd have a side swivel on the front and a side swivel on the very rear, that you could just thread the sling through. I have yet to see a rifle come with both in the right dimensions. The bottom swivel can be used, but it only kinda sorta works, and more likely will send the magazine flying straight into your crank the first time you release the rifle. Adapters are simple and common, but you definitely need to know what you need. Pics will help. |
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i have seen some less than intuitive 3pt style slings... most of the gun show/gun store 3pt generic "tactical" slings fall into this category... you could try posting pictures and we could decipher it... most likely it is designed for a side sling swivel up front and attaches to a small fabric loop in the back which connects to the M4 style stock... in all honesty though, you are probably better off chalking this up as a learning experience, and buying another sling online... if you are dead set on 3-pt, Specter Gear are the best i've used. |
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Although this might fall under the category of closing the barn door after the horse is out, but go to www.vickerstactical.com and under his "Tactical Tips" tab read what Larry has to say about slings. Hopefully, it will convince you to relegate that newly purchased three point sling to some other weapon. If you're not willing to spend the bucks on a Vickers Combat Application Sling (VCAS), take a look at the Blue Force Gear Victory series. If those are still too steep for you, look at the Boonie Packer 2 Point slings. You will be better off in the long run. |
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stony, I've never tried a quickly adjustable two point sling like that. But in the pics on his page for that sling, he shows the front of it attached to the back of the rail, almost at the breech. That layout is just about where my three point slings usually end up connecting back. In fact, if I drew a strap between his front adapter and his rear adapter, it might as well be a three point sling. Based on those pics, and my understanding of how slings work and where my adapters are, I'm not in any rush to trade my three point slings for two points. That's not to say that he isn't right about what's better (or that he is), but I'm not convinced it's a significant enough of an advantage [to me] to start swapping out gear I trust. |
That's one of the advantages of the two point...no extra webbing to cover the controls on your rifle or get tangled up in your gear. I used a 3-point for several years before converting it to an adjustable 2-point. I like my converted sling much better than its original configuration. Original 3-point from CQB Solutions (now Specter Gear)  Above sling with a few mods  Here it is with a QD swivel on the VLTOR 
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Evening all. So I'm on the new side to working on my ar. Shot them for a while, but didn't do any of the work. So I figure to start simple right. Replace the plate for my single point sling. I was careful to not lose the small selector spring when you move the plate back, and I didn't mess the retainer spring either. The problem for me came on the reassemble. I replaced the collapsible stock and either didn't screw it down far enough or to far, cause when I did a function check and pulled back the bolt and let it loose, I heard a jingle, which is not a typical sound coming from an AR. So where did I go wrong? was it to far in, to far out or something that I screwed up somewhere else in the process? As a newbie to the working on my own AR I could use the help. Any and all suggestions needed and appreciated. Greg ILEAS Region IV TEMS |
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There should be a black pin of sorts that retains the buffer assembly in the buffer tube. The black pin has a spring underneath it, and pokes up through a hole in the bottom of the round section of the lower receiver where the stock screws in. The stock should screw in far enough to retain that pin without blocking it from poking up a little, I believe. You mention two springs, but not that pin thing. Still have it? ETA: that would be the retainer in the last picture and section here: www.ar15.com/content/guides/assembly/lower/ |
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Evening.. I have the smaller spring that is held in place by the new plate for my single point sling. I bent the other spring, I believe the buffer retainer spring that sits in the lower. The buffer retainer is the part that I believe sits on top of that spring in the lower. For some reason, it was the part that came out after I reassembled the stock. That's why I was wondering if it was because I didn't screw the stock in enough ? Does that make sense? Greg |
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Yes. You want to screw the stock in far enough to hold that retainer in securely (as I understand it). If you can't get the stock in that far, let us know, maybe something's wrong. You might also want to ask on the Build It Yourself AR-15 forum: www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=3&f=4 |
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JB, Thanks for the info. I have to wait now until I get my replacement spring. Once I get it, I'll let you know. Should I have had the upper off so I can see the stock screwing in so I don't mess the spring again. I'll jump back on once I get the new springs. I don't want to ruin another spring Greg |
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JB, One of the guys suggested that I just flip the spring around. It worked. I still will replace the spring when the new spring kit arrives. But at least I'm able to use my rig vs. a generic rig. Thanks again for the suggestions. That building forum had some great info and video. Greg |
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