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Originally Posted By spyderboy03: They are up on PA as coming soon now. $2,000  I was hoping for $1,750 similar to the RDB 1-8.https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-plxc-1-5-12x36mm-ffp-rdb-rifle-scope-illum-acss-griffin-mil-gen2 https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-plxc-1-5-12x36mm-ffp-rdb-rifle-scope-illum-acss-raptor-yard-556-gen2 Boy am I glad I ordered the NX6 2-12. |
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Originally Posted By doty_soty: I’d probably be looking at the 2-12 NF that’s coming out. I assume it won’t have RDB tech so there’s that but it may be more up that alley. But I use piggyback RDS for anything I’d use RDB illum for anyway so I can give a bit that direction when picking my main optic. Like I don’t mind not having daylight bright or 1X since I’ve got a dot, and that gives me a lot more options than if those were requirements. If you ae talking about the Primary Arms PLXC 1.5-12x, then YES it will have the RDB illumination tech. |
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142: If you ae talking about the Primary Arms PLXC 1.5-12x, then YES it will have the RDB illumination tech. Originally Posted By Sniper3142: Originally Posted By doty_soty: I’d probably be looking at the 2-12 NF that’s coming out. I assume it won’t have RDB tech so there’s that but it may be more up that alley. But I use piggyback RDS for anything I’d use RDB illum for anyway so I can give a bit that direction when picking my main optic. Like I don’t mind not having daylight bright or 1X since I’ve got a dot, and that gives me a lot more options than if those were requirements. If you ae talking about the Primary Arms PLXC 1.5-12x, then YES it will have the RDB illumination tech. I mean the NX6, which their 2-12 I assume is their standard digillum and not their bright 1-8 NX8/ATACR diffractive illum. I could see how calling it RDB would be poorly worded and misreference the PLX line though since that’s what they call their diffractive illum though 
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PLx Compact 1.5-12x's are here in the US being ran through our in-house QC. Get those pre-orders in to reserve yours! Orders shipping this week! Check out our video over on Rumble HERE (Youtube temporarily down  )
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: PLx Compact 1.5-12x's are here in the US being ran through our in-house QC. Get those pre-orders in to reserve yours! Orders shipping this week! Check out our video over on Rumble HERE (Youtube temporarily down )
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Looking forward to reviews being re-posted on YT or new ones to decide. Locking turret on this one?
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Originally Posted By CavScout: Looking forward to reviews being re-posted on YT or new ones to decide. Locking turret on this one? This scope comes with 2 options; capped turrets and an interchangeable dial turret for elevation. Our PLx 2.5-20 and 4.5-36 will have locking turrets available, set to release early Q4 this year |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: This scope comes with 2 options; capped turrets and an interchangeable dial turret for elevation. Our PLx 2.5-20 and 4.5-36 will have locking turrets available, set to release early Q4 this year |
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C_DOES posted his review! RDB lighting is far too bright for use. The high end is so bright it hurts the eyes and the low end is far too bright for NVG's. Still watching the video but he likes the scope overall. Mine arrives Monday and my concern is the illumination as well. The objective is so close to the turret, your scope mount may not fit.  Primary Arms PLxC RDB 1.5-12x36 - THE CREAM RISES TO THE TOP! |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: C_DOES posted his review! RDB lighting is far too bright for use. The high end is so bright it hurts the eyes and the low end is far too bright for NVG's. Still watching the video but he likes the scope overall. Mine arrives Monday and my concern is the illumination as well. The objective is so close to the turret, your scope mount may not fit.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcEjzeFn_vYNot having a zero stop, or locking turret, in my opinion, is a big miss. Who buys a 12x and doesn't dial? And then not be able to easily dial back and hit the stop to confirm zero. Oh well, this was out of my price range anyhow. . |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: C_DOES posted his review! RDB lighting is far too bright for use. The high end is so bright it hurts the eyes and the low end is far too bright for NVG's. Still watching the video but he likes the scope overall. Mine arrives Monday and my concern is the illumination as well. The objective is so close to the turret, your scope mount may not fit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcEjzeFn_vYWho passively aims through a scope though? That’s what offset/top dots are for. |
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Originally Posted By carholio: Not having a zero stop, or locking turret, in my opinion, is a big miss. Who buys a 12x and doesn't dial? And then not be able to easily dial back and hit the stop to confirm zero. Oh well, this was out of my price range anyhow. . Looks like a very similar setup to the turrets on the PLX-C 1-8. They’re really low profile and I’ve never bumped them off zero, personally. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Who passively aims through a scope though? That's what offset/top dots are for. um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/0b11310c-ba14-4046-8d54-7300d2288744_jpe-3763461.JPG I’m tracking now, I was thinking passive through a -14 or -31, etc. |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/0b11310c-ba14-4046-8d54-7300d2288744_jpe-3763461.JPG If you got that money you probably already have an NX8 or ATACR. |
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Originally Posted By PistoleroJesse: If you got that money you probably already have an NX8 or ATACR. The plxc 1-8x will probably replace my nx8 because the nx8 fisheye bothers me. |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/0b11310c-ba14-4046-8d54-7300d2288744_jpe-3763461.JPG Says the guy who kept his ops collar on the rifle while not using an ops suppressor mount
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42: Says the guy who kept his ops collar on the rifle while not using an ops suppressor mount I also bought a kac picatinny handguard despite not needing all that picatinny real estate. Not sure what that has to do with seeing at night. |
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Really want to like this as the footprint is very attractive, but the price point and the reticle both miss the mark for me. NF 2-12 incoming I suppose. I do like what PA is doing, I just hope we can get some better reticle offerings and the prices don't keep going up relative to competition. Surprised this one is coming in higher than NX6 or NX8 prices. |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: This scope comes with 2 options; capped turrets and an interchangeable dial turret for elevation. Our PLx 2.5-20 and 4.5-36 will have locking turrets available, set to release early Q4 this year 
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Originally Posted By CavScout: @PrimaryArms which flip up scope caps do you recommend? The rubber bikini cover is, ummm. Weird. The rubber bikini cover is meant for transporting in the packaging and for storage in your safe but having something more durable is definitely understandable. I took the time to measure the scope with a set of calipers; the measurement for the ocular lens is 1.69" and the objective lens is 1.73". If you're going with Butler Creek flip up scope caps you would pick a Size 18 for the ocular and a Size 21 for objective. Here is the Butler Creek sizing chart for you to reference. 
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: The rubber bikini cover is meant for transporting in the packaging and for storage in your safe but having something more durable is definitely understandable. I took the time to measure the scope with a set of calipers; the measurement for the ocular lens is 1.69" and the objective lens is 1.73". If you're going with Butler Creek flip up scope caps you would pick a Size 18 for the ocular and a Size 21 for objective. There are a few other options on the market like One Hundred Concepts for an Anti-Reflection Device with a flip up cover (Scope Cap Pro) for 36mm Objective lens HERE and another company called MK Machining that makes a set for the PLx Compact 1-8 that you could use for the ocular side, but I'm not sure if they sell the set separately. You can find them HERE Here is the Butler Creek sizing chart for you to reference. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/506478/Butler-Creek-Scope-Caps-3764413.jpg |
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Really want to like this as the footprint is very attractive, but the price point and the reticle both miss the mark for me. NF 2-12 incoming I suppose. I do like what PA is doing, I just hope we can get some better reticle offerings and the prices don't keep going up relative to competition. Surprised this one is coming in higher than NX6 or NX8 prices. I agree that the reticle is a miss, but the price definitely isn't. The RDB optics compete with scopes twice their price. They're an incredible bargain even if they're more expensive than PA's usual lineup. |
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Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: The rubber bikini cover is meant for transporting in the packaging and for storage in your safe but having something more durable is definitely understandable. I took the time to measure the scope with a set of calipers; the measurement for the ocular lens is 1.69" and the objective lens is 1.73". If you're going with Butler Creek flip up scope caps you would pick a Size 18 for the ocular and a Size 21 for objective. There are a few other options on the market like One Hundred Concepts for an Anti-Reflection Device with a flip up cover (Scope Cap Pro) for 36mm Objective lens HERE and another company called MK Machining that makes a set for the PLx Compact 1-8 that you could use for the ocular side, but I'm not sure if they sell the set separately. You can find them HERE Here is the Butler Creek sizing chart for you to reference. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/506478/Butler-Creek-Scope-Caps-3764413.jpg Originally Posted By PrimaryArms: Originally Posted By CavScout: @PrimaryArms which flip up scope caps do you recommend? The rubber bikini cover is, ummm. Weird. The rubber bikini cover is meant for transporting in the packaging and for storage in your safe but having something more durable is definitely understandable. I took the time to measure the scope with a set of calipers; the measurement for the ocular lens is 1.69" and the objective lens is 1.73". If you're going with Butler Creek flip up scope caps you would pick a Size 18 for the ocular and a Size 21 for objective. There are a few other options on the market like One Hundred Concepts for an Anti-Reflection Device with a flip up cover (Scope Cap Pro) for 36mm Objective lens HERE and another company called MK Machining that makes a set for the PLx Compact 1-8 that you could use for the ocular side, but I'm not sure if they sell the set separately. You can find them HERE Here is the Butler Creek sizing chart for you to reference. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/506478/Butler-Creek-Scope-Caps-3764413.jpg |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: I've never really struggled with the Chevron. The tip - shoot there. If you're short on time and need to shoot fast, then it's a bigger dot than a dot, and good enough. But then, I cut my teeth on iron sights, where you shoot at the tip top of the post. This is a better version of that, so cool. Everybody hates the Chevron. I don't. Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By doty_soty: The chevron is dumb but it looks like the intent is this optic is to use holds and not dial. The chevron only matters @ exactly 100 yards with no wind. Outside that you're in the tree anyway. I've never really struggled with the Chevron. The tip - shoot there. If you're short on time and need to shoot fast, then it's a bigger dot than a dot, and good enough. But then, I cut my teeth on iron sights, where you shoot at the tip top of the post. This is a better version of that, so cool. Everybody hates the Chevron. I don't. I love the Chevron. |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: I bought your One Hundred Concepts cap for the objective, 36mm but it does not fit. @primaryarms. Too small for the objective. That’s on me, I was working off bad information. Reach out to Customer Service for a return and we’ll cover the shipping cost. We already gave them a heads up, so they’ll be expecting your return. We're seeing if the OHC guys will be making a 44mm objective to fit in the future, because they currently don't have them available. Edit: They're still working on it but will be available soon. |
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Originally Posted By carholio: Not having a zero stop, or locking turret, in my opinion, is a big miss. Who buys a 12x and doesn't dial? And then not be able to easily dial back and hit the stop to confirm zero. Oh well, this was out of my price range anyhow. . 100%. I was hoping to use this scope on a light weight western hunting type build, but locking turret or at a min a zero stop is mandatory for me after experience I have had with non-locking turrets in the field. Scope looks great otherwise. |
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Originally Posted By VeritatisUnus: 100%. I was hoping to use this scope on a light weight western hunting type build, but locking turret or at a min a zero stop is mandatory for me after experience I have had with non-locking turrets in the field. Scope looks great otherwise. This exactly. A zero stop and/or locking turret is pretty much mandatory for me for the same reason. |
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Originally Posted By jlebowski: Hey Primary Arms, any idea when the "Flip-up Magnification Lever" (MPN=210106) will be available and what it will cost? We have them. Not sure why that MPN is not searchable but will get that fixed. https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slide-mount-magnification-flip-lever |
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Originally Posted By MARSH1: We have them. Not sure why that MPN is not searchable but will get that fixed. https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slide-mount-magnification-flip-lever Originally Posted By MARSH1: Originally Posted By jlebowski: Hey Primary Arms, any idea when the "Flip-up Magnification Lever" (MPN=210106) will be available and what it will cost? We have them. Not sure why that MPN is not searchable but will get that fixed. https://www.primaryarms.com/primary-arms-slide-mount-magnification-flip-lever Thank you. |
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Well, I have not found a great lens cap solution yet so I went to Hammie, he printed some caps with retention. I had to go out of town with short notice so pics when I return. However, I can say these caps work perfectly, slapped them on as a quick test. https://hammy3dprints.com/ |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/0b11310c-ba14-4046-8d54-7300d2288744_jpe-3763461.JPG Originally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By bluedog82: Who passively aims through a scope though? That's what offset/top dots are for. um... everyone who wants to shoot further than 100m at night? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/0b11310c-ba14-4046-8d54-7300d2288744_jpe-3763461.JPG I think you probably dont understand what passive aiming is. |
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Originally Posted By DevL: I think you probably dont understand what passive aiming is. Great example of Dunning Kruger. In terms of aiming with night vision, Passive aiming exists in counterpart to active aiming. And the difference is whether you're emitting IR signature. While the modern IG operators mostly talk about "passive aiming" in the context of shooting NODS through high-mounted red dots, that is absolutely not the exclusive application of passive aiming, and thinking it is says a lot about someone's depth of experience and knowledge on the subject. Dedicated or clip on NVDs offer passive aiming beyond the range limitations of NODS+red dot, and having a day scope with reticle brightness settings that don't overpower a clip on but still offer a contrasting reticle are absolutely useful. |
 PLxC 1.5-12x: Thanks, I hate it Interesting video from Brass Facts. Was never in my wheelhouse, cause I can't bother spending that much on an optic, but I have been curious. |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwvBhW7pozwInteresting video from Brass Facts. Was never in my wheelhouse, cause I can't bother spending that much on an optic, but I have been curious. Either the scope is just for holds on the reticle, or you deal with a non locking, non zero stop dialable turret. From what I've read elsewhere, Leupold sued PA for their locking turret system and it's still ongoing (?). I suspect this is the real reason the glx line went away and their plx line has focused on lpvo offerings that don't need a dialable turret. Their soon to be released plx higher mag offerings only offer a capped or ez-stop turret which seems to require a much taller turret to implement which is why they didn't offer it on the 1.5-12x. Attached File But yeah their awesome locking turret options seem to be dead due to Leupold apparently owning the patent on locking turrets or at least the mechanism that PA was using.  |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: In the video he wasn't impressed with the top end image quality but his real gripe is the turrets. Either the scope is just for holds on the reticle, or you deal with a non locking, non zero stop dialable turret. From what I've read elsewhere, Leupold sued PA for their locking turret system and it's still ongoing (?). I suspect this is the real reason the glx line went away and their plx line has focused on lpvo offerings that don't need a dialable turret. Their soon to be released plx higher mag offerings only offer a capped or ez-stop turret which seems to require a much taller turret to implement which is why they didn't offer it on the 1.5-12x. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/83722_jpg-3818771.JPG But yeah their awesome locking turret options seem to be dead due to Leupold apparently owning the patent on locking turrets or at least the mechanism that PA was using. Originally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By WriterClarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwvBhW7pozwInteresting video from Brass Facts. Was never in my wheelhouse, cause I can't bother spending that much on an optic, but I have been curious. Either the scope is just for holds on the reticle, or you deal with a non locking, non zero stop dialable turret. From what I've read elsewhere, Leupold sued PA for their locking turret system and it's still ongoing (?). I suspect this is the real reason the glx line went away and their plx line has focused on lpvo offerings that don't need a dialable turret. Their soon to be released plx higher mag offerings only offer a capped or ez-stop turret which seems to require a much taller turret to implement which is why they didn't offer it on the 1.5-12x. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/83722_jpg-3818771.JPG But yeah their awesome locking turret options seem to be dead due to Leupold apparently owning the patent on locking turrets or at least the mechanism that PA was using. I suspect this is accurate on all counts. Leupold likes going after people that use auto-locking turrets like theirs, as in the GLX and 4-16 ATACR etc. I also feel that it’s a bit of an unfair to knock the PLXCs turrets as in the video. They suck because that’s clearly not the design intent of the optic. If they had a reticle more aligned with dialing like TMR or MIL-C then yes, it’d need good exposed/locking turrets. But this thing is clearly geared towards running capped and holding shots. If people want to dial they’d be better suited to something like the 2-12 NX6 or the like for this reason. It’s like saying this scope sucks because it’s a lot worse at hammering nails than a hammer. Probably. |
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Originally Posted By WriterClarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwvBhW7pozwInteresting video from Brass Facts. Was never in my wheelhouse, cause I can't bother spending that much on an optic, but I have been curious. |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: I am calling him out on the glass quality because I have several ATACRs and the glass on this with my eyes, appears to be clearer than my ATACRs and NX8's. I would have liked locking turrets of course but I bought it knowing the feature set. Brass Facts is entitled to his opinion of course and every owner will have different perspectives I suppose but this looks fantastic out in the desert. Originally Posted By CavScout: Originally Posted By WriterClarke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwvBhW7pozwInteresting video from Brass Facts. Was never in my wheelhouse, cause I can't bother spending that much on an optic, but I have been curious. I was really surprised about the glass quality part. Full disclaimer I don’t have the 1.5-12 but I LOVE the glass on the 1-8. For me it’s as or more clear than the 1-8 ATACR I had. I’m a fan of ATACRs overall, and consider the 4-16 to be a benchmark by which other optics should be judged, but I have been terribly impressed with my 1-8 PLXC RDBs glass quality. |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: I am calling him out on the glass quality because I have several ATACRs and the glass on this with my eyes, appears to be clearer than my ATACRs and NX8's. I would have liked locking turrets of course but I bought it knowing the feature set. Brass Facts is entitled to his opinion of course and every owner will have different perspectives I suppose but this looks fantastic out in the desert. You still might disagree with him but it was clear to me he wasn't saying it didn't look fantastic out in the desert (during the day). |
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