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Posted: 2/2/2017 10:16:22 AM EDT
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I mean seriously..... $150 and higher for back up sights??? Im not saying there isnt a lot of detail or small parts in sights, but there has to be quality sights out there that dont match the price of a Primary Arms red dot sight
what have you all found as options out there? |
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You don't have to own BUIS if you run an optic, but if your scope fails you are screwed past 30 feet.
I prefer standard G.I. issue taper pin front sight bases for duty rifles or a home-defense carbine. Troy Trijicon HK style BUIS is my first pick for BUIS. A.R.M.S. .5 MOA rear is my second pick. LMT 's solid non-folding rear sight my third. Standard Colt style detachable carry handles work great too. I will not use plastic sights on any rifle. I remove Glock sights the day I buy their pistols. |
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I mean seriously..... $150 and higher for back up sights??? Im not saying there isnt a lot of detail or small parts in sights, but there has to be quality sights out there that dont match the price of a Primary Arms red dot sight what have you all found as options out there? If you don't like the price, don't buy it. On a budget, Magpul MBUS gen 2. They are affordable and durable as hell. I almost only run rifles with FSB's, I'm really not a fan of the free float rail set ups or high speed low drag type rails, but I have one and I love Daniel Defense fixed sights. For a folding rear sight, all of my rifles except clones run KAC 300M full size buis |
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I hate the regular Magpul BUIS. Their Pro sights are much better. My only grip is sight picture. With a squared up external profile, it makes for a relatively poor sighting system. Granted, my eyes are on the downhill right now, so I need good stuff. But really, the rear sight should be rounded.
I like the DD rear, and the ARMS back-ups. The ARMS aren't perfect, but are better than the regular Magpuls. When you deal with iron sights, you really get what you pay for. You can absolutely buy basic optics that are cheaper than the sights. But good iron sights will stay with you - no batteries to fail, no glass to break, etc. Planning for $100-150 on them should be expected. Also keep in mind that good sights are most often US made, versus the cheap red dots which almost universally come from China. |
| Think about this.......why are you putting BUIS on anyway? Looks tactical? Cool? Cuz' everyone else does? Because you never thought about not needing them? NOT picking on anyone but from a civilian/casual shooter standpoint you don't need them. If it's a dedicated self defense SHTF type of rifle by all means equip it but don't buy junk ( magpul plastic sights aren't junk). And you don't need them on everything either.It's easy to look at 174 different setups on this site and get all wrapped up that "everyone" is doing it.Trust me, not everybody is. |
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Ill just leave this here...
Drop test MBUS are really nothing to sneeze at. They are lightweight, affordable, and damn durable. |
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Think about this.......why are you putting BUIS on anyway? Looks tactical? Cool? Cuz' everyone else does? Because you never thought about not needing them? NOT picking on anyone but from a civilian/casual shooter standpoint you don't need them. If it's a dedicated self defense SHTF type of rifle by all means equip it but don't buy junk ( magpul plastic sights aren't junk). And you don't need them on everything either.It's easy to look at 174 different setups on this site and get all wrapped up that "everyone" is doing it.Trust me, not everybody is. Your post doesn't offend me at all, but I don't agree with you; that is sort of a narrow minded point of view, although maybe I'm wrong. Civilian, casual shooter, LEO, MIL, Private security, whatever... it doesn't matter who, what, or why. BUIS are a choice IMO. Not everyone runs BUIS on everything because "everyone is doing it," although I concede some probably do. I side with Murphy's law; anything that can go wrong will go wrong. As overused as the phrase is, I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. IMO same as keeping a 3 day bag in the truck, along with extra tools, oil, case of water, etc.; its just in case I need it. Life is valuable; a few hundred bucks and a few ounces is a small price to pay IMO incase your primary optic fails, and ALL optics can fail. I own Aimpoints, ACOGs, Nightforce, etc. and I trust them, but still not enough to not run BUIS. I don't care what some DEVGRU operator said about BUIS, or what some tactical instructor says about it, etc.; I run BUIS. Not everyone runs or believes in BUIS, and thats fine. They can choose to do what they want with their rifles, its their choice and none of my business, I have no right to say otherwise. Some people don't believe in BUIS at all. I have a primary go to carbine that wears an Aimpoint Comp M4, and a backup carbine that wears a TA31F, but I choose to outfit all of mine with quality BUIS; I don't have any "hobby" black rifles, all my rifles are built and set up with the mindset that if I had to grab any of them at a moments notice, I could bet my life and my family's life on them. Do I need to run BUIS? No, but damn right I do. Not everyone shares that mindset, and no one has to agree with me but that's my take. My two cents isn't worth much. I'm no operator or tactical instructor, I'm just an average guy with an average job. To me my guns are tools, and just like all of my other tools if I can't rely on it to do its job well, its worthless. |
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It's a BACK UP sight. Not a primary.
Honestly, Magpul MBUS is all you need. I actually bought a Ruger rapid deploy poly rear sight and I like it better than the Magpul and it was even less expensive. You can allow yourself to think you "need" a lot more than you really do, especially when looking at some pictures of nice set ups on here. For what it's worth, I took my matech off my M4 in AFG because my ACOG was bad ass and it's not like I could use the irons with the ACOG on it anyways. |
| I believe in always having a back up sight on a rifle if possible but I consider all of my guns duty guns if the need arises. I don't like the thought of having a red dot or scope only without a back up rear sight but for a lot of guys not concerned with personal defense it would be just fine. I sure do wish I liked the looks of the Magpul sights, but to me they just look Fugly. I love the Troy sights but am not a fan of the price, thankfully I only need the rears since I like to run fixed FSBs. You can find fairly good deals on the EE if you keep an eye out sometimes Troys can be had for around $60ish. Those Magpuls are pretty dang cheap though, and are a great option I just can't get over how ugly they are on a rifle. The Matech and others like it aren't bad options either but I prefer the dual aperture sights. |
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