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Posted: 11/15/2016 6:46:13 PM EDT
| I hate to even bring this up BUT....I have a Rock River 5.56, I'm 57 years old with not the best eyes....Looking for an optic short distance from say 0 -100 yards.....I thought red dots then read oh no ya need some magnification like 1-4 or 1-6...Back on red dots especially after reading about the MRO...I already know the reliability and record of Trijicon which is a selling point right there..I guess the question is...Is this MRO (I am) capable hitting 8' steel gongs at 100 yards ??? Gun is primarily for home defense, target shooting and maybe the coyote that would wander into my woods....I have a range set up and the ability to shoot 100 yards and the coyotes howl every few nights and aren't very far away....A newbie to optics all together so needing some help... .Thanks for any advice..... |
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43 here, decent eyes. i can nail the 6"ers at 100 yards as fast as i can pull the trigger with a shitty bushnell TRS25 (temp until eotech sends my damn check).
my friend/neighbor is 55, and with my gun does the same, just a little slower 
i'm looking @ the MRO or aimpoint pro as a replacement for my eotech. the TRS will go on the old shotgun for deer season. |
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Quoted: I guess the question is...Is this MRO (I am) capable hitting 8' steel gongs at 100 yards ??? Yes, an RDO like the MRO is capable of easily hitting a 8" going at 100 yards. However, I don't know if your eyes will get an acceptable sight picture. Your best bet is to look through one at a gun store so make sure the dot works with your eyes before purchasing one. If the dot turns out to be incompatible with your eyes, then I'd check out the Trijicon TA44 1.5x16 ACOG for your intended use. |
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43 here, decent eyes. i can nail the 6"ers at 100 yards as fast as i can pull the trigger with a shitty bushnell TRS25 (temp until eotech sends my damn check). my friend/neighbor is 55, and with my gun does the same, just a little slower
i'm looking @ the MRO or aimpoint pro as a replacement for my eotech. the TRS will go on the old shotgun for deer season. Under what context are you hitting 6" plates rapid fire. OP, every RDS 2moa can, with the right mechanics and consistent trigger pulls, hit 6" plates pretty easily. |
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Under what context are you hitting 6" plates rapid fire. OP, every RDS 2moa can, with the right mechanics and consistent trigger pulls, hit 6" plates pretty easily. Quoted:
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43 here, decent eyes. i can nail the 6"ers at 100 yards as fast as i can pull the trigger with a shitty bushnell TRS25 (temp until eotech sends my damn check). my friend/neighbor is 55, and with my gun does the same, just a little slower
i'm looking @ the MRO or aimpoint pro as a replacement for my eotech. the TRS will go on the old shotgun for deer season. Under what context are you hitting 6" plates rapid fire. OP, every RDS 2moa can, with the right mechanics and consistent trigger pulls, hit 6" plates pretty easily. under the context of shooting them at 100 yards at the local range while leaning across the table. standing unsupported results in about 25% less hits. 
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What mount for the TA44-C-400241 ??? Something very inexpensive seeing that the scope will take a huge chunk of change. The mount it comes with will be fine. Or you can buy a qd mount from almost every company that makes qd mounts. Yes, I meant low power variable. I think a steiner PX4i in a decent mount would make you much happier than a ta44. I've owned several, and they are slower than a lpv on 1x, and don't offer much magnification at all, weapon lights wash out the illumination, etc. You mention added weight, but optics are how you aim the rifle. They are the first place I'd hand out exceptions for ounces. |
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I'm 44 and my eyes kind of suck. If I'm shooting past 25 yards, the RDS becomes....... not as easy as I'd like it to be. I would rather have some magnification from 15 yards on..... An RDS is a bit easier than the carbine sight radius at 50. A rifle sight radius, it's about the same for me. I haven't really shot it much at 100 to see if I can dial it in good. That's my next goal. I haven't had the RDS for very long. For me it was mostly irons and then some scopes until recently.
I'm not all that excited about batteries. If I had the money, I'd go for an ACOG of some flavor. For sure. The next best thing might be the Leupy AR MOD 1 1-4 "LPV". But with a mount it will weigh more than an ACOG of most sizes. Some would be a lot lighter. I think a TA-33 is a real good idea for a typical AR. In my thinking, the RDS's biggest assett is low light, close range. Home Defense bump in the night optic. It seems like that's it's best ability. From what I can tell. Or low light out to 50 yards maybe. As long as you can see your target or have enough light for that. It might be good for hunting yotes at night, if you have enough moon. But some of the LPV have lighted reticles too. So there's that. I've yet to find a perfect solution. (Although I think a compact ACOG would probably be close) I wish my eyes were what they used to be. But I guess I need to get over that thought. Although they said my eyes got a little better this year from last year. That's kind of cool. My Dad said the same thing happened to him. He's 73 and almost doesn't need his glasses for distance any longer.  I was like, wow.
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I'm 44 and my eyes kind of suck. If I'm shooting past 25 yards, the RDS becomes....... not as easy as I'd like it to be. I would rather have some magnification from 15 yards on..... An RDS is a bit easier than the carbine sight radius at 50. A rifle sight radius, it's about the same for me. I haven't really shot it much at 100 to see if I can dial it in good. That's my next goal. I haven't had the RDS for very long. For me it was mostly irons and then some scopes until recently. I'm not all that excited about batteries. If I had the money, I'd go for an ACOG of some flavor. For sure. The next best thing might be the Leupy AR MOD 1 1-4 "LPV". But with a mount it will weigh more than an ACOG of most sizes. Some would be a lot lighter. I think a TA-33 is a real good idea for a typical AR. In my thinking, the RDS's biggest assett is low light, close range. Home Defense bump in the night optic. It seems like that's it's best ability. From what I can tell. Or low light out to 50 yards maybe. As long as you can see your target or have enough light for that. It might be good for hunting yotes at night, if you have enough moon. But some of the LPV have lighted reticles too. So there's that. I've yet to find a perfect solution. (Although I think a compact ACOG would probably be close) I wish my eyes were what they used to be. But I guess I need to get over that thought. Although they said my eyes got a little better this year from last year. That's kind of cool. My Dad said the same thing happened to him. He's 73 and almost doesn't need his glasses for distance any longer. I was like, wow.Their 1-4 and 1-6 optics have motion sensing auto-on illumination. I think Leupold also has some motion sensing 1-x type optics.  |
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The new Sig Romeo7's are doing 7 years on a single AA battery. (Have to use a lithium battery to get a AA that will last that long). Their 1-4 and 1-6 optics have motion sensing auto-on illumination. I think Leupold also has some motion sensing 1-x type optics.  Quoted:
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I'm 44 and my eyes kind of suck. If I'm shooting past 25 yards, the RDS becomes....... not as easy as I'd like it to be. I would rather have some magnification from 15 yards on..... An RDS is a bit easier than the carbine sight radius at 50. A rifle sight radius, it's about the same for me. I haven't really shot it much at 100 to see if I can dial it in good. That's my next goal. I haven't had the RDS for very long. For me it was mostly irons and then some scopes until recently. I'm not all that excited about batteries. If I had the money, I'd go for an ACOG of some flavor. For sure. The next best thing might be the Leupy AR MOD 1 1-4 "LPV". But with a mount it will weigh more than an ACOG of most sizes. Some would be a lot lighter. I think a TA-33 is a real good idea for a typical AR. In my thinking, the RDS's biggest assett is low light, close range. Home Defense bump in the night optic. It seems like that's it's best ability. From what I can tell. Or low light out to 50 yards maybe. As long as you can see your target or have enough light for that. It might be good for hunting yotes at night, if you have enough moon. But some of the LPV have lighted reticles too. So there's that. I've yet to find a perfect solution. (Although I think a compact ACOG would probably be close) I wish my eyes were what they used to be. But I guess I need to get over that thought. Although they said my eyes got a little better this year from last year. That's kind of cool. My Dad said the same thing happened to him. He's 73 and almost doesn't need his glasses for distance any longer. I was like, wow.Their 1-4 and 1-6 optics have motion sensing auto-on illumination. I think Leupold also has some motion sensing 1-x type optics.  That's very cool. It's still something that can fail though. I'm not sure if the reticle is etched or what on that particular optic. But like with an AP, if the battery fails at the wrong time, no aiming circle. I like scopes or optics that have a reticle there, regardless of what happens with the electronics. |
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That's very cool. It's still something that can fail though. I'm not sure if the reticle is etched or what on that particular optic. But like with an AP, if the battery fails at the wrong time, no aiming circle. I like scopes or optics that have a reticle there, regardless of what happens with the electronics. Quoted:
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I'm 44 and my eyes kind of suck. If I'm shooting past 25 yards, the RDS becomes....... not as easy as I'd like it to be. I would rather have some magnification from 15 yards on..... An RDS is a bit easier than the carbine sight radius at 50. A rifle sight radius, it's about the same for me. I haven't really shot it much at 100 to see if I can dial it in good. That's my next goal. I haven't had the RDS for very long. For me it was mostly irons and then some scopes until recently. <span>I'm not all that excited about batteries. </span> If I had the money, I'd go for an ACOG of some flavor. For sure. The next best thing might be the Leupy AR MOD 1 1-4 "LPV". But with a mount it will weigh more than an ACOG of most sizes. Some would be a lot lighter. I think a TA-33 is a real good idea for a typical AR. In my thinking, the RDS's biggest assett is low light, close range. Home Defense bump in the night optic. It seems like that's it's best ability. From what I can tell. Or low light out to 50 yards maybe. As long as you can see your target or have enough light for that. It might be good for hunting yotes at night, if you have enough moon. But some of the LPV have lighted reticles too. So there's that. I've yet to find a perfect solution. (Although I think a compact ACOG would probably be close) I wish my eyes were what they used to be. But I guess I need to get over that thought. Although they said my eyes got a little better this year from last year. That's kind of cool. My Dad said the same thing happened to him. He's 73 and almost doesn't need his glasses for distance any longer. I was like, wow.Their 1-4 and 1-6 optics have motion sensing auto-on illumination. I think Leupold also has some motion sensing 1-x type optics.  That's very cool. It's still something that can fail though. I'm not sure if the reticle is etched or what on that particular optic. But like with an AP, if the battery fails at the wrong time, no aiming circle. I like scopes or optics that have a reticle there, regardless of what happens with the electronics.  1-4x would probably be the route to take then. |
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That's very cool. It's still something that can fail though. I'm not sure if the reticle is etched or what on that particular optic. But like with an AP, if the battery fails at the wrong time, no aiming circle. I like scopes or optics that have a reticle there, regardless of what happens with the electronics. Quoted:
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I'm 44 and my eyes kind of suck. If I'm shooting past 25 yards, the RDS becomes....... not as easy as I'd like it to be. I would rather have some magnification from 15 yards on..... An RDS is a bit easier than the carbine sight radius at 50. A rifle sight radius, it's about the same for me. I haven't really shot it much at 100 to see if I can dial it in good. That's my next goal. I haven't had the RDS for very long. For me it was mostly irons and then some scopes until recently. I'm not all that excited about batteries. If I had the money, I'd go for an ACOG of some flavor. For sure. The next best thing might be the Leupy AR MOD 1 1-4 "LPV". But with a mount it will weigh more than an ACOG of most sizes. Some would be a lot lighter. I think a TA-33 is a real good idea for a typical AR. In my thinking, the RDS's biggest assett is low light, close range. Home Defense bump in the night optic. It seems like that's it's best ability. From what I can tell. Or low light out to 50 yards maybe. As long as you can see your target or have enough light for that. It might be good for hunting yotes at night, if you have enough moon. But some of the LPV have lighted reticles too. So there's that. I've yet to find a perfect solution. (Although I think a compact ACOG would probably be close) I wish my eyes were what they used to be. But I guess I need to get over that thought. Although they said my eyes got a little better this year from last year. That's kind of cool. My Dad said the same thing happened to him. He's 73 and almost doesn't need his glasses for distance any longer. I was like, wow.Their 1-4 and 1-6 optics have motion sensing auto-on illumination. I think Leupold also has some motion sensing 1-x type optics.  That's very cool. It's still something that can fail though. I'm not sure if the reticle is etched or what on that particular optic. But like with an AP, if the battery fails at the wrong time, no aiming circle. I like scopes or optics that have a reticle there, regardless of what happens with the electronics. Yup the Steiner 1-4 seems to be the tough daylight bright 1-4 go to option these days. |
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58, never had 20/20 vision.
Just moved my Aimpoint PRO to my AR pistol. At 100 yards it covers too much of an already small target for my tastes. Put a Leupold 1.5-4 scope on my Colt. I'm just getting to the point that I like a little magnification at distance. Or, get both! |
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58, never had 20/20 vision. Just moved my Aimpoint PRO to my AR pistol. At 100 yards it covers too much of an already small target for my tastes. Put a Leupold 1.5-4 scope on my Colt. I'm just getting to the point that I like a little magnification at distance. Or, get both! Which model leupy do you have? And can we get a pic? 
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I believe I am going to go with a Voretx Strike Eagle...Great reviews...Crazy warranty...I looked through a red dot and I feel with my eyes I needed a bit more...Thanks for all the advice !!!! Lots of people going that route and seem to be real happy. My only thing is I think they're a bit heavier than some of the others. But that might translate into durability. Or better glass. Or maybe they're not any heavier for other 30mm tubes. They are in my home state, so I'm glad they seem to have a good following and reputation. Good for business. |
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Get LASEK, then get a T1. ALL problems solved. Lol thats what I did but in the opposite order though. Had the T1 first, shot with my POS nerdy glasses, then contacts, then the Marine Corps finally approved my LASIK two years after I requested it. My vision is still great but of course the red dot is still not a perfectly shaped dot. I say get a Primary Arms red dot, for the money they are very impressive, especially the newer ones with the ACSS reticule. I got an older one with the shitty OEM torx screw mount mounted on my Mossberg 590A1 SPX and its still holding zero, still need to get a ADM or Bobro mount for it. Good thing I got my 2 T1s for $500 each, Aimpoint keeps jacking up the price every year. |
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