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8/28/2016 1:56:42 PM EDT
I am looking at a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32 FFP for a 308.  Should I get the MRAD or MOA reticle?

For a second build, a 223 with an18in barrel, I am looking at the PST 1-4, Spitfire AR, or the Mepro RDS.  

Your thoughts?
8/28/2016 2:58:14 PM EDT
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I am looking at a Vortex PST 2.5-10x32 FFP for a 308.  Should I get the MRAD or MOA reticle?

For a second build, a 223 with an18in barrel, I am looking at the PST 1-4, Spitfire AR, or the Mepro RDS.  

Your thoughts?
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I was an moa guy, but when I went vortex pst, switched to mrad

I think it's better for ranging if it becomes necessary.  Picked up an hst with mrad as well.

Txl
8/28/2016 4:25:58 PM EDT
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I'm also looking at the Vortex Viper PST 1-4 for a new build.  I'm kind of debating between that and the Trijicon Accupower.  I'm planning on using it for 3-gun and will prob run it through some carbine classes.  Wondering how well the Vortex will hold up and haven't been able to find much on YT unfortunately.  I know Vortex has an outstanding warranty, but Trijicon is good too, so really want to get whatever will hold up the best in carbine classes.  Not beating it into the ground, but getting tossed around isn't uncommon.

I've used the PST 4-16 MOA a fair amount.  I've been more accustomed to MIL but the MOA was pretty easy to adapt to.  I tend to like MIL for easy calculations, but MOA can work just as good.  I think it's just more of what you get used to.

Update:   Found a thread asking exactly what I was interested in (running a Vortex Viper PST through a carbine course and durability).  It's here if interested http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/700806_Vortex_PST_in_carbine_course.html

Good luck in your purchase!
8/29/2016 3:38:03 AM EDT
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Having owned a PST... a Accupoint all day over the Vortex PST.
8/29/2016 4:06:36 AM EDT
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I have the Viper 1-4 MRAD.

Get the capped version on the 1-4. Saved the 2 oz.

My turrets find a way to get bumped every now and then.. I wish I would have gotten the capped version.
8/30/2016 1:14:17 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a PST 2.5-10x32 SFP scope and in my opinion it is an awesome scope for the money.  I have used it out to 1K without issues.  Holds zero, good positive clicks, adjustments are true.

I have the MOA verison because I have always used MOA and was familiar with it.  I would just pick which one you are familiar with.  If you are not familiar with either then I would probably go mil.
8/30/2016 1:26:16 PM EDT
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I to converted from MOA to MRAD about 2 years ago, now all my scopes except for one are MRAD. It helps that others I shoot with use MRAD and that if you are spotting with a SOLO or Recon, the reticles will match making for easier shot calling. Its not very hard to switch, after about 6 months I became relatively solid in MRAD use. I also have the scope you are considering and highly recommend it, it is super clear, the reticle doesn't get in the way at 10x and it is half the weight of competing optics with the same feature set as well as relatively affordable.
8/30/2016 1:57:45 PM EDT
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I'm also looking at the Vortex Viper PST 1-4 for a new build.  I'm kind of debating between that and the Trijicon Accupower.  I'm planning on using it for 3-gun and will prob run it through some carbine classes.  Wondering how well the Vortex will hold up and haven't been able to find much on YT unfortunately.  I know Vortex has an outstanding warranty, but Trijicon is good too, so really want to get whatever will hold up the best in carbine classes.  Not beating it into the ground, but getting tossed around isn't uncommon.

I've used the PST 4-16 MOA a fair amount.  I've been more accustomed to MIL but the MOA was pretty easy to adapt to.  I tend to like MIL for easy calculations, but MOA can work just as good.  I think it's just more of what you get used to.

Update:   Found a thread asking exactly what I was interested in (running a Vortex Viper PST through a carbine course and durability).  It's here if interested http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/700806_Vortex_PST_in_carbine_course.html

Good luck in your purchase!
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If you're using it in 3-Gun, the AccuPOINT may be what you should be looking at.  The only one of the three that's daylight bright for rapid close-range shooting.  Check out the new Steiner P4Xi as well.
8/30/2016 2:00:33 PM EDT
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If you can make yourself think in metric measurement, the math for MRAD is WAY easier than for MOA.
8/30/2016 9:32:01 PM EDT
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If you can make yourself think in metric measurement, the math for MRAD is WAY easier than for MOA.
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MRAD is not metric.
A mil (or mRad) is 1/1000th of the distance. So whatever units you
are using, whether meters, yards, fathoms, light years, etc. that is
always the case. Its only resemblance to the metric system is that both are decimal.
If you use the scope for ranging mrad is the choice. If you use the scope for precision MOA is better.
At 100yds 1 mil is .10yds = 3.6".

At 1000yds 1mil = 36" so with a 1/10 turret will move the POI 3.6".



At 100yds 1 moa is 1.047".

At 1000yds 1moa = 10.47"so with a  1/4 turret, 1 click will move the POI 2.6" (2.6175).



With a 1/8moa turret found on target scopes, 1 click will move the POI 1.3" at 1000yds.
 
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