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Posted: 5/18/2016 7:41:34 AM EDT
| I'm sure this question has been raised multiple times, so here we go again. Looking for opinions on which one piece scope mount is considered the best or top rated for a LR scope with the availability to also mount a red dot or holographic sight as well, quality is a must! |
| I put an Aadmount 20 MOA one piece mount on my 6.5 Grendel. Great robust mount and not a single regret buying mine. Only thing is mine is a little heavy but I wanted a high quality 30 MM mount for my Vortex Viper scope. My 20" Shilen 6.5 Grendel is a very versatile rifle but is still light enough to shoot off hand but I normally shoot it off the bench. My Aadmount has the built in bubble level which is handy but a little harder to see than a bubble level mounted on top of the scope tube. |
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How do you want the RDS mounted? I don't like them mounted on top of my optics. I would much rather have it rotated 45 degrees and set lower to the bore line. As such I would look for a scope mount and a separate 45deg mount. I think Warne makes an integrated mount that would be similar to how I would want it set up. |
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Spuhr, allows for mounting of MRDS just about any way you want. I have looked at the Spuhr system, extremely nice but I was wondering what other companies offer solid alternatives. More than likely the second sight attachment will be mounted at a 45 degree offset, but I have not ruled out it being mounted above the scope also. |
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I have looked at the Spuhr system, extremely nice but I was wondering what other companies offer solid alternatives. More than likely the second sight attachment will be mounted at a 45 degree offset, but I have not ruled out it being mounted above the scope also. Quoted:
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Spuhr, allows for mounting of MRDS just about any way you want. I have looked at the Spuhr system, extremely nice but I was wondering what other companies offer solid alternatives. More than likely the second sight attachment will be mounted at a 45 degree offset, but I have not ruled out it being mounted above the scope also. It has a 45* mounting location. |
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Quoted: It has a 45* mounting location. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Spuhr, allows for mounting of MRDS just about any way you want. I have looked at the Spuhr system, extremely nice but I was wondering what other companies offer solid alternatives. More than likely the second sight attachment will be mounted at a 45 degree offset, but I have not ruled out it being mounted above the scope also. It has a 45* mounting location. |
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Spuhr, allows for mounting of MRDS just about any way you want. I have looked at the Spuhr system, extremely nice but I was wondering what other companies offer solid alternatives. More than likely the second sight attachment will be mounted at a 45 degree offset, but I have not ruled out it being mounted above the scope also. It has a 45* mounting location. Function of RDS and scope selection, as well as mount height. It wouldn't be more than a top mount for a same optic and mount. |
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on?
Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. |
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on? Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. I figured he was referring specifically to a "one piece" machined scope mount. I.e., Spuhr, GDI, Giessele. Not that it makes a difference but that's what he asked for. |
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on? Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? |
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The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? Quoted:
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on? Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? How about this Larue half ring mount it will turn a standard Larue Mount into one unit, or Larue also makes a clamp on that when attached still leaves the whole package as a one piece unit. |
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The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? Quoted:
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on? Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? The "usual suspects" for what you seek are Larue and ADM. Maybe this: (Larue QD LT-104 for scope and ADM AD-TR for DeltaPoint Pro in separate offset). 
Or this: (red dot mounted in Larue LT-137 ring half platform on LT-104 QD mount) 
I like the 45 degree offset position better. I don't have to lift my head and lose cheek weld. I like the offset separate from the scope mount also because I can remove the dot and scope and then install the dot alone on the top for lighter and more maneuverable home defense. Like this: 
With that big scope you may need a higher mount. With my QD mounted Burris 6-24x50 Black Diamond target scope, I had to go higher with LaRue's 1.93" LT -135 for the sun shade to clear the front folded sight, here: 
Although the offset dot is not installed in that photo, it can easily be added if desired. I just don't usually run it with the target scope, which is usually only at bench. BTW: You have excellent taste and judgment with that rifle and scope combo. Congrats. |
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Thanks for all the info, that was a very informative post. I've thought about LaRue but have read mixed reviews on them where others state they don't have a lot of bite and solid mounting on the rail compared to other brands out on the market. I think you may be referring to the weak grip reports recently on Bobro mounts. I know of no such issues with either larue or ADM. Larue is battle proven. |
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Quoted: I think you may be referring to the weak grip reports recently on Bobro mounts. I know of no such issues with either larue or ADM. Larue is battle proven. Quoted: Quoted: Thanks for all the info, that was a very informative post. I've thought about LaRue but have read mixed reviews on them where others state they don't have a lot of bite and solid mounting on the rail compared to other brands out on the market. I think you may be referring to the weak grip reports recently on Bobro mounts. I know of no such issues with either larue or ADM. Larue is battle proven. I've found a couple Larue mounts that needed tightened a little more than Larue's instructions to hold zero on certain rails. I like that they are infinitely adjustable. ADM has 8 points per turn and I believe they should have more (or use a finer threaded screw for adjustment). I've had one ADM/rail combo that went from being loose to being tight enough it left some marks on the upper and it was extremely hard to get the lever off. No issues with my other uppers though. MI uses 12 points on their QD setup, which I feel is a better design. I don't use Bobro anymore. |
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The "usual suspects" for what you seek are Larue and ADM. Maybe this: (Larue QD LT-104 for scope and ADM AD-TR for DeltaPoint Pro in separate offset). http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/DC3CA486-2C52-4CCB-8C29-9F5AE3953216_zps5nsfdkzp.jpg Or this: (red dot mounted in Larue LT-137 ring half platform on LT-104 QD mount) http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/546699EC-6F7D-4940-B183-BA8C8F8ED6A9_zpscalqz1c2.jpg I like the 45 degree offset position better. I don't have to lift my head and lose cheek weld. I like the offset separate from the scope mount also because I can remove the dot and scope and then install the dot alone on the top for lighter and more maneuverable home defense. Like this: http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/49527CA9-B42E-419F-8DBF-22A3090EB9EF_zpsozp3iz6y.jpg With that big scope you may need a higher mount. With my QD mounted Burris 6-24x50 Black Diamond target scope, I had to go higher with LaRue's 1.93" LT -135 for the sun shade to clear the front folded sight, here: http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/ACFA075D-2666-4935-AE63-734A5A4C687B_zpsxxghzkdk.jpg Although the offset dot is not installed in that photo, it can easily be added if desired. I just don't usually run it with the target scope, which is usually only at bench. BTW: You have excellent taste and judgment with that rifle and scope combo. Congrats. Quoted:
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"LR scope"? Long range? What scope and what kind of rifle are you wanting to put it on? Do you need 45 degree offset built into the one piece mount, or can you do that separately in some manner? I'm not seeing "the usual suspects" mentioned in this thread and wonder what it is that I am missing. The scope is a Burris XTR II 5-25X50 going onto an Armalite M153GN18 (not being utilized for 3G), and yes I'd prefer the additional mount to be built into the one piece mount. Is there a reason this is not a good idea, does it tend to make the system weaker or more prone to loosening up? Also would prefer a quality QD system that has an entire solid mounting system, but open to a non QD system as well. Can anyone shed some personal info on American Defense ADM mounting systems? The "usual suspects" for what you seek are Larue and ADM. Maybe this: (Larue QD LT-104 for scope and ADM AD-TR for DeltaPoint Pro in separate offset). http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/DC3CA486-2C52-4CCB-8C29-9F5AE3953216_zps5nsfdkzp.jpg Or this: (red dot mounted in Larue LT-137 ring half platform on LT-104 QD mount) http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/546699EC-6F7D-4940-B183-BA8C8F8ED6A9_zpscalqz1c2.jpg I like the 45 degree offset position better. I don't have to lift my head and lose cheek weld. I like the offset separate from the scope mount also because I can remove the dot and scope and then install the dot alone on the top for lighter and more maneuverable home defense. Like this: http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/49527CA9-B42E-419F-8DBF-22A3090EB9EF_zpsozp3iz6y.jpg With that big scope you may need a higher mount. With my QD mounted Burris 6-24x50 Black Diamond target scope, I had to go higher with LaRue's 1.93" LT -135 for the sun shade to clear the front folded sight, here: http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/ACFA075D-2666-4935-AE63-734A5A4C687B_zpsxxghzkdk.jpg Although the offset dot is not installed in that photo, it can easily be added if desired. I just don't usually run it with the target scope, which is usually only at bench. BTW: You have excellent taste and judgment with that rifle and scope combo. Congrats. So you pick off gophers from your backyard on the ...................................moon? 
I use Badger mounts on a sleeve (three pieces). I also have several Larue one piece mounts. Good stuff. For cheap and strong, I have two RRA one piece mounts. |
| Lol re the gophers. Actually I use that 6-24x scope for load development more than anything else. The adjustments are too fine (1/8 MOA) for all but either pure target shooting or those long range "gophers" or similar small critters. Damned good target scope, though. Wish it was MRAD. |
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