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Posted: 5/9/2016 2:05:29 AM EDT
| This is certainly a specific question but I am interested in a vortex strike eagle for my duty AR15. The one question I have is how much larger in height will this optic be than a carry handle? The reason I ask is I want to make sure it fits into my rifle mount in my cruiser. The carry handle fits fine but not sure how tall this thing is when it's mounted to the top taking into account the scope rings. Thanks. |
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I had a Strike Eagle mounted in a Vortex CM202 mount and I never thought to measure how tall it was above the caps.
I do have that CM202 mount still, and will be glad to measure the height over the picatinny rail. I just don't have a Strike Eagle any more. ETA: The top of the CM202 mount I have is 2.25" and the top of the removable carry handle I have is 1.75" so perhaps the Strike Eagle's elevation cap is 1/2" taller. Hope this helps! |
| I have a question. Why do you want to use a variable magnification scope for a duty AR? Also, why a 1-6x24 vs. a 1-4x24? Why not use a 1x red-dot optic? You mentioned the height of the carrying handle. Does the AR have an A2 upper receiver or an A3 upper with a detachable carrying handle? |
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Jesus, you guys are a lawyers dream.... Back your comment up. I can testify as a SME (obviously subject matter depending), so I'm always interested when comments like this come up. PLEASE don't be a drive by / know nothing commentator, or run away refusing to back up your statement like so many people do here. Post what you've got, and maybe I can even learn something. 
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Lets not derail OPs thread and get it locked.
Previous posted asked some relevant questions. We need more information to assist. Your receiver type A2 or A3 flat top with attached carry handle. What mount do you intend to use for the optic? Rings, QD mount (which one and what height.) I have the Vortex PST 1-4 in a LaRue LT104 mount when I get home I can give you a general idea how much higher it makes it. |
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Quoted: Lets not derail OPs thread and get it locked. I have the Vortex PST 1-4 in a LaRue LT104 mount when I get home I can give you a general idea how much higher it makes it. A removable carry handle measures 1.75" from the rail to it's highest point. |
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I have the same setup and measured 3.25" from the rail to the top of the elevation turret. A removable carry handle measures 1.75" from the rail to it's highest point. Quoted:
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Lets not derail OPs thread and get it locked. I have the Vortex PST 1-4 in a LaRue LT104 mount when I get home I can give you a general idea how much higher it makes it. A removable carry handle measures 1.75" from the rail to it's highest point. Thanks for posting this...... The PST will be higher as well than the Strike Eagle because the turret are taller. |
| Normally I would have agreed with the variable scope not good for duty use but this new strike eagle at 1x is amazing, especially at the price point. When shouldering the rifle and looking through the optic with both eyes it is amazing for cq. You can barely tell that you're looking through an optic, all you see is the etched and lit reticle. I think the fact it is a larger tube makes a huge difference and an improvement over other brands I've tried. |
| Normally I would have agreed with the variable scope not good for duty use but this new strike eagle at 1x is amazing, especially at the price point. When shouldering the rifle and looking through the optic with both eyes it is amazing for cq. You can barely tell that you're looking through an optic, all you see is the etched and lit reticle. I think the fact it is a larger tube makes a huge difference and an improvement over other brands I've tried. |
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Normally I would have agreed with the variable scope not good for duty use but this new strike eagle at 1x is amazing, especially at the price point. When shouldering the rifle and looking through the optic with both eyes it is amazing for cq. You can barely tell that you're looking through an optic, all you see is the etched and lit reticle. I think the fact it is a larger tube makes a huge difference and an improvement over other brands I've tried. Not sure they are telling you that the variable optic is bad for a duty rifle because the 1x is not true 1x. I believe they are discouraging you because duty rifles take a certain degree of punishment that magnified optics do not always hold up to or can loose zero. |
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I have and love a SE on a comp gun. It's a great range scope for the money. I wouldn't take it to hunt dangerous game and I wouldn't take it to war.
Wouldn't occur to me to use it on any kind of duty gun. I'd use something smaller and closer to bullet proof. Aimpoint pro or MRO or something like that at the least, if money were an object. Or nice irons. I'd want something super rugged, always ON, and compact. And I would practice a lot with it. So, imo, there are better choices. |
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I have and love a SE on a comp gun. It's a great range scope for the money. I wouldn't take it to hunt dangerous game and I wouldn't take it to war. Wouldn't occur to me to use it on any kind of duty gun. I'd use something smaller and closer to bullet proof. Aimpoint pro or MRO or something like that at the least, if money were an object. Or nice irons. I'd want something super rugged, always ON, and compact. And I would practice a lot with it. So, imo, there are better choices. spot on.... aside from the various permissions and legalities of having different optics on rifles, you want something rugged and dependable. I'd go aiimpoint and call it a day. Not only that, but with some of the cases in the federal courts, you want something that is recognized as a standard and widely used across the land. |
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Back your comment up. I can testify as a SME (obviously subject matter depending), so I'm always interested when comments like this come up. PLEASE don't be a drive by / know nothing commentator, or run away refusing to back up your statement like so many people do here. Post what you've got, and maybe I can even learn something.
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Jesus, you guys are a lawyers dream.... Back your comment up. I can testify as a SME (obviously subject matter depending), so I'm always interested when comments like this come up. PLEASE don't be a drive by / know nothing commentator, or run away refusing to back up your statement like so many people do here. Post what you've got, and maybe I can even learn something.
you say you are an SME and have no idea what my post means? really quickly.....first off, you guys are opining without even knowing if the OP is allowed to used different optics, if they can even have this specific optic, what restrictions their are, training for it or lack there of, etc etc. Let's not even get into 'new' hardware used in 'force action' that is not standardized, tested, etc etc. There are no less than 14 cases right now in the Federal courts that will most likely go against the officers for $hit just like this post. OP should first do his due diligence with this department, state AG office, etc to make sure that he is not going to get flushed if he ever has to use his duty weapon with a vortex strike eagle on it. One case has a patrolman using a 2-8x and prosecution says it's a sniper scope and to make it worse, guy was an advid 2A supporter so his FB and online activity is being used against him. DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT APPROVED, TESTED, BEEN TRAINED ON WITH CERT, ETC ETC ETC......Do not take anyones advice, speak to your Goddamned department and have them and their attorneys guide you on what you should use. respectfully |
| We have had 14 Leupold VX-Rs on the street and one in SWAT since 2014. Dented scope caps and I pulled the rubber off the focus ring at some unknown time. Other than that they have held up fine. Most rifles have Eotechs and about 50 Aimpoint pros. Scopes are in LT104 mounts. All rifles fit in the same center console shotgun /rifle racks just fine. Not sure how much taller the Vortex caps are but we have enough room to get your hand between the top of the scope and the cage. David |
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you say you are an SME and have no idea what my post means? really quickly.....first off, you guys are opining without even knowing if the OP is allowed to used different optics, if they can even have this specific optic, what restrictions their are, training for it or lack there of, etc etc. Let's not even get into 'new' hardware used in 'force action' that is not standardized, tested, etc etc. There are no less than 14 cases right now in the Federal courts that will most likely go against the officers for $hit just like this post. OP should first do his due diligence with this department, state AG office, etc to make sure that he is not going to get flushed if he ever has to use his duty weapon with a vortex strike eagle on it. One case has a patrolman using a 2-8x and prosecution says it's a sniper scope and to make it worse, guy was an advid 2A supporter so his FB and online activity is being used against him. DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT APPROVED, TESTED, BEEN TRAINED ON WITH CERT, ETC ETC ETC......Do not take anyones advice, speak to your Goddamned department and have them and their attorneys guide you on what you should use. respectfully Quoted:
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Jesus, you guys are a lawyers dream.... Back your comment up. I can testify as a SME (obviously subject matter depending), so I'm always interested when comments like this come up. PLEASE don't be a drive by / know nothing commentator, or run away refusing to back up your statement like so many people do here. Post what you've got, and maybe I can even learn something.
you say you are an SME and have no idea what my post means? really quickly.....first off, you guys are opining without even knowing if the OP is allowed to used different optics, if they can even have this specific optic, what restrictions their are, training for it or lack there of, etc etc. Let's not even get into 'new' hardware used in 'force action' that is not standardized, tested, etc etc. There are no less than 14 cases right now in the Federal courts that will most likely go against the officers for $hit just like this post. OP should first do his due diligence with this department, state AG office, etc to make sure that he is not going to get flushed if he ever has to use his duty weapon with a vortex strike eagle on it. One case has a patrolman using a 2-8x and prosecution says it's a sniper scope and to make it worse, guy was an advid 2A supporter so his FB and online activity is being used against him. DO NOT USE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT APPROVED, TESTED, BEEN TRAINED ON WITH CERT, ETC ETC ETC......Do not take anyones advice, speak to your Goddamned department and have them and their attorneys guide you on what you should use. respectfully Good grief.  All of this was unnecessary.
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We have had 14 Leupold VX-Rs on the street and one in SWAT since 2014. Dented scope caps and I pulled the rubber off the focus ring at some unknown time. Other than that they have held up fine. Most rifles have Eotechs and about 50 Aimpoint pros. Scopes are in LT104 mounts. All rifles fit in the same center console shotgun /rifle racks just fine. Not sure how much taller the Vortex caps are but we have enough room to get your hand between the top of the scope and the cage. David One of the benefits of the VX-R Patrol (I have the 3-9x40 version, but this applies equally to the 1.25x4-20mm) is that the turrets are very low profile, and that motion-activated FireDot is incredibly effective. 
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