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1/2/2016 2:00:13 PM EDT
A lot of variable scopes are not known to be daytime bright. That being said, what are the brightest (on 1x) variable optics out there? I'm looking for a 1-4 but will consider a 1-6, and ideally would like a BDC, and be under $2k.
1/2/2016 2:14:50 PM EDT
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I've never used one; but the Vortex Razor 1-6x seems pretty popular. That's what I would've went with if I had the money. They seem to sell for around $1400

Available with Jerry Miculek's BDC reticle

1/2/2016 2:36:53 PM EDT
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Just off the top of my head and somewhat in price order..

Trijicon TR24 1-4x
Steiner 1-4x
Burris XTRII 1-5x
Meopta ZD 1-4x
Leupold VX6 Multigun 1-6x
Vortex Razor Gen II 1-6x
Leupold Mk6 1-6x
Steiner 1-5x
Kahles K16i SM1 1-6x
ELCAN SpecterDR 1-4x
Swarovski Z6i BRT 1-6x
1/2/2016 2:51:40 PM EDT
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Just ordered an Aimpoint 1-4x. They're very bright during daylight (Dual illumination has that effect), but do not have a BDC.
1/2/2016 3:45:27 PM EDT
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Aimpoint?
1/2/2016 4:00:37 PM EDT
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Just ordered an Aimpoint 1-4x. They're very bright during daylight (Dual illumination has that effect), but do not have a BDC.


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Probably auto corrected from AccuPoint, the TR24 1-4
1/2/2016 5:43:37 PM EDT
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The Kahles K16i 1-6X has to be one of, if not the brightest. I cannot get mine to washout no matter how light/white the background is or no matter how bright the sun is. The vast majority of the time when shooting on bright days I have it turned up only about 60% and it is plenty bright.

Unfortunately it's a couple hundred bones north of your designated price range....
1/2/2016 7:11:07 PM EDT
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The Kahles K16i 1-6X has to be one of, if not the brightest. I cannot get mine to washout no matter how light/white the background is or no matter how bright the sun is. The vast majority of the time when shooting on bright days I have it turned up only about 60% and it is plenty bright.

Unfortunately it's a couple hundred bones north of your designated price range....
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K15i is within budget, though. It's 100% the same, minus 1x more. I believe they made it for civilian shooters in EU because of their wonky "cannot own police/military hardware" laws.
1/2/2016 7:14:40 PM EDT
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A lot of variable scopes are not known to be daytime bright. That being said, what are the brightest (on 1x) variable optics out there? I'm looking for a 1-4 but will consider a 1-6, and ideally would like a BDC, and be under $2k.
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When you say "brightest" are you referring to image clearness and low image brightness or are you referring to dot illumination brightness in full sunlight?

The. best glass is Kahles.  The brightest illumination is probably the Leupold Firedot reticle.

The Kahles K16i is a phenomenon scope.  The Leupold VX-6 1-6x24 Multigun CDS has very good glass with a great BDC reticle (CMR-2 illuminated) and several different Firedot reticle choices, including the Firedot SPR and stay within $1300 or so.
1/2/2016 10:41:34 PM EDT
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When you say "brightest" are you referring to image clearness and low image brightness or are you referring to dot illumination brightness in full sunlight?

The. best glass is Kahles.  The brightest illumination is probably the Leupold Firedot reticle.

The Kahles K16i is a phenomenon scope.  The Leupold VX-6 1-6x24 Multigun CDS has very good glass with a great BDC reticle (CMR-2 illuminated) and several different Firedot reticle choices, including the Firedot SPR and stay within $1300 or so.
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A lot of variable scopes are not known to be daytime bright. That being said, what are the brightest (on 1x) variable optics out there? I'm looking for a 1-4 but will consider a 1-6, and ideally would like a BDC, and be under $2k.


When you say "brightest" are you referring to image clearness and low image brightness or are you referring to dot illumination brightness in full sunlight?

The. best glass is Kahles.  The brightest illumination is probably the Leupold Firedot reticle.

The Kahles K16i is a phenomenon scope.  The Leupold VX-6 1-6x24 Multigun CDS has very good glass with a great BDC reticle (CMR-2 illuminated) and several different Firedot reticle choices, including the Firedot SPR and stay within $1300 or so.



I'm referring to illumination brightness.
1/3/2016 12:07:25 AM EDT
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weaver tactical has a 1-7x out that is dual focal plane, but havent seen much on it at all, except one youtube review.
1/3/2016 2:21:10 AM EDT
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My Elcan specterDR is insanely bright, I still have not needed to use the bright setting!
1/3/2016 2:22:43 AM EDT
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Mueller Sped shot is daylight bright.
1/3/2016 11:47:15 AM EDT
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Just off the top of my head and somewhat in price order..

Trijicon TR24 1-4x
Steiner 1-4x
Burris XTRII 1-5x
Meopta ZD 1-4x
Leupold VX6 Multigun 1-6x
Vortex Razor Gen II 1-6x
Leupold Mk6 1-6x
Steiner 1-5x
Kahles K16i SM1 1-6x
ELCAN SpecterDR 1-4x
Swarovski Z6i BRT 1-6x
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Here is the guru on this topic.  

I'm not an expert but for the money, the XTR II 1-5 has always called my name.
1/3/2016 1:06:13 PM EDT
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I'm a big fan of the brightness and clarity of the Trijicon TR24 1-4x with the green triangle post.
1/3/2016 2:23:09 PM EDT
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Burris XTR2 1-5 is probably the brightest reticle I have seen ( although my illumination has gone out twice now, very disappointed with Burris as all the rest of thier products have rocksolid performers)... and I also have a Leupold VXR 2-7 with the firedot reticle, Some are mentioning the Vortex 1-6, from what i recall the Vortex reticle will wash out in bright daylight against lighter backgrounds
1/3/2016 2:27:20 PM EDT
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How about a Sightron S TAC 1-7X24 IRMH.
http://info.sightron.com/Riflescopes/S-TAC-Series/S-TAC17X24IRMH/

I don't have this scope but have 6 other Sightron's, they are all good!
1/4/2016 5:46:42 PM EDT
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The Kahles K16i 1-6X has to be one of, if not the brightest. I cannot get mine to washout no matter how light/white the background is or no matter how bright the sun is. The vast majority of the time when shooting on bright days I have it turned up only about 60% and it is plenty bright.

Unfortunately it's a couple hundred bones north of your designated price range....
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What kind of battery life are you getting out of your K16i?
1/4/2016 8:28:26 PM EDT
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Burris XTR2 1-5 is probably the brightest reticle I have seen ( although my illumination has gone out twice now, very disappointed with Burris as all the rest of thier products have rocksolid performers)... and I also have a Leupold VXR 2-7 with the firedot reticle, Some are mentioning the Vortex 1-6, from what i recall the Vortex reticle will wash out in bright daylight against lighter backgrounds
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I believe the Vortex they may be referring to is the Razor HD, and that does have a bright single dot reticle. If they are in fact referring to the Vortex Strike Eagle, then yes, that reticle might wash out . Of course there's like $1,000 difference between those two scopes.

It's a shame to hear about the Burris XTRII 1-5; that and the Bushnell SMRS 1-6.5 in SFP are on the short list for tax return spending. Not sure if the extra cost is worth it for the Bushnell, but it might be if it works from day one and continues to do so.

Would love to be able to pick up the Kahles 16i, but holy moly that is a lot for a 1-6. If I had the funds, I would go with that without hesitation.
1/4/2016 9:02:00 PM EDT
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A lot of variable scopes are not known to be daytime bright. That being said, what are the brightest (on 1x) variable optics out there? I'm looking for a 1-4 but will consider a 1-6, and ideally would like a BDC, and be under $2k.
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I can't necessarily keep it under 2k or include a BDC, but in my experience these seem to have the brightest illumination:
 - Schmidt & Bender 1.1-4x24 Zenith Short Dot LE
 - Swarovski 1-6x24 Z6i
 - Meopta 1-4x22 R1 (older model)

1/4/2016 9:04:00 PM EDT
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I've got a Leopold VX6 1-6x with the Firedot reticle that I've been impressed with. I also had at one time a Trijicon TR24 1-4x with the green triangle reticle that I was favorably impressed with. I sold it to fund other projects, and always somewhat regretted that.

The newer Burris glass, particularly the 1-5x and 1.5-8x have gotten my attention, as the price and features are right. They are heavy though. For example, the Leopold VX6 clocks in at 14.6oz, while the Burris 1-5x comes in at 21.1oz...
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