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7/6/2015 5:33:03 PM EDT
I have a TA31F and the bullet drop compensator is based on the ACOG being sighted in at 100yds. I would like to put it on a 10.5" upper, but with the drop in FPS, how much will that effect the bullet drop compensator at 200, 300, 400, 500 yds?

I know it says it goes out to 800, but with a 10.5" barrel it would just drop too much, so I'd just like to know how it would be different at 200 to 500yds and how I would read/ use the ACOG reticle properly with this upper.
7/6/2015 5:37:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Could you use the % decrease in velocity and bullet drop using the "standard" barrel length to the 10.5 and adjust accordingly?  Wonder if this would work?
7/6/2015 5:47:47 PM EDT
[#2]
It works just about perfectly when I have it setup on my 16" upper, but Id like to put it on my 10.5" and I'm curious how close the reticle will be at say 200 and 300 yd mark on the reticle. will it be "close enough" or should I use the 300 drop point for 200 and 400 for 300? Maybe even the 500 mark for 300? I'd like to know if there is an easy way to use this high dollar sight for the 10.5 or will it just have to like on the 16".
7/6/2015 5:49:41 PM EDT
[#3]
TA31RCO-M4
FROM TIP OF CHEVRON TO:
BOTTOM OF THE CHEVRON 5 MOA
1ST HASHMARK (400M) 9 MOA
2ND HASHMARK 14 MOA
3RD HASHMARK (600M) 20 MOA
4TH HASHMARK 28 MOA
5TH HASHMARK 38 MOA

Should be very close to these numbers, use a ballistic calculator to figure out the ranges. You will need muzzle velocity and bullets ballistic coefficient.

Alternatively, after zeroing, shoot a target at 100 yds using each different stadia line  and then measure the distance it is off your point of aim. Again use a ballistic calculator to determine what each stadia line represents in term of yardage based on the difference in MOA. You will still need the actual mv and bc.

Hope that helps some.
7/6/2015 5:51:14 PM EDT
[#4]
I pulled those numbers from a post by bullet, I used Google. Should be very close for the F model.
7/6/2015 9:55:12 PM EDT
[#5]
On my 16", I start to fall off after 600m. With a 10.5 I fell off after 500m. 55gr pmc for both. Both were more than manageable to holdover though.

Not as scientific as you were looking for, but that's my experience.
7/6/2015 10:24:32 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm really looking to know from zero to 300. If I zero the 10.5 to be the tip of the chevron at 100, what would 150 200 and 300 be out of the 10.5" barrel with 55gr ammo?

what I'm kind of asking is if I zero it for the 100yd at the tip of the chevron, will the drop compensator be basically useless? like the bottom of the chevron, and the 300 400 500 600 800 marks.

I'm trying my best to ask this question but It is hard to describe.

thank you for everyone's help and helping me try to find out how to best use this badass optic on top of my SBR.
7/6/2015 10:27:29 PM EDT
[#7]
It's trial and error really when you deviate what it was made for. However, it is not going to be off by THAT much. We're talking at some distance it's going to not be correct but before that it's going to deviate by a little until it goes way off.

Think of it like being off by a little on your sights. As the distance increases, the deviation increases.

I put my TA31ECOS on a M1A and found the M80 round has similar ballistics. At about 400m the offset becomes noticeably apparent.

You don't need science really, just go out and do it. It will be off, but by how much? Only you can test it.
7/6/2015 10:54:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Read THIS and see if it helps
7/6/2015 11:03:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote History
Quoted:
TA31RCO-M4
FROM TIP OF CHEVRON TO:
BOTTOM OF THE CHEVRON 5 MOA
1ST HASHMARK (400M) 9 MOA
2ND HASHMARK 14 MOA
3RD HASHMARK (600M) 20 MOA
4TH HASHMARK 28 MOA
5TH HASHMARK 38 MOA

Should be very close to these numbers, use a ballistic calculator to figure out the ranges. You will need muzzle velocity and bullets ballistic coefficient.

Alternatively, after zeroing, shoot a target at 100 yds using each different stadia line  and then measure the distance it is off your point of aim. Again use a ballistic calculator to determine what each stadia line represents in term of yardage based on the difference in MOA. You will still need the actual mv and bc.

Hope that helps some.
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7/6/2015 11:28:34 PM EDT
[#10]
Topic Moved
7/7/2015 12:14:46 AM EDT
[#11]
Just running some quick numbers and assuming PMC .223 at 2400fps for a 10.3" barrel, Strelok tells me this for a 100yd zero:

7/7/2015 7:34:59 AM EDT
[#12]
Have you tried shooting it?

Crazy idea, I know... But it might tell you something.
7/7/2015 8:01:36 AM EDT
[#13]
strelock for the win
7/7/2015 10:59:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Go zero it at 300 and see where the tip ends up at 100.
7/8/2015 2:01:34 AM EDT
[#15]
SUPERSET72

where did you find that program you used for that?
7/8/2015 10:35:53 PM EDT
[#16]
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SUPERSET72

where did you find that program you used for that?
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Strelok is a smartphone app
7/9/2015 7:51:38 AM EDT
[#17]
I did the same thing last night with my 308 load and the bushnell BTR-1.

By adjusting the zero I could get within 1 Moa out to 600.  

Adjust your 100 yard zero until a middle range matches the drop at yardage.  For example, I used 400 yards.

100. Top of the dot. (1 Moa high)
200. Bottom of the dot (1 MOA LOw)
312. First horizontal line
400. Second.  
496.  Third
597.   Bottom

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