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Posted: 9/3/2014 6:45:39 PM EDT
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I have one. Great optic with very advanced features. Nice upgrade accessories are available for it if you want to upgrade later, such as a screw in killflash and ADM sourced real return to zero QD levers. I have a gen 2 and all the upgrades. It has never failed to function.
The only reason to not buy it is that you might want to explore getting the little Lucid M7 microdot instead. Same price. All the same features except only one reticle, the EOTech like circle dot. I like that best anyway. The M7 is much smaller, Aimpoint micro size, and weighs only 4.7 ounces. Very rugged. I have two of them, one taking a pounding on a 12 gauge tactical shotgun. Impervious to heavy slug and buckshot recoil. The M7 also has a brighter dot when on full brightness, although the HD7 is plenty bright for full sun. Only negative for the little M7 is that it needs a riser for an AR and does not ship with one. You need a one inch height for lower 1/3 co witness, and will be about $10-$20 from your local store. Lucid sells one separately, but it is a bit pricey (I think $40) and I'm not a fan of the design. Others love it. |
Under the $300 mark for something brand new, imho the Lucid HD7 is absolutely unbeatable for value/cost/quality ratio. I have one on my M&P 15 Sport and it has been absolutely flawless. I have used and abused it purposefully dropping my rifle off a truck onto the red dot, run-n-gun, classes, etc. and it has held up amazingly, no issues, and holds zero. I have had mine about a year and I am still on my first lithium AAA battery. I have experienced no change in POI when switching between reticles. The manual brightness levels are perfect for everything from pitch black to bright desert sun, the auto-brightness works quite well. I have about 7k rounds through my rifle with the Lucid and its still going strong. It is a damn rugged red dot for the price. I own a Lucid HD7, Lucid M7, Vortex Strikefire v.1, and I have used a couple of Primary Arms red dots, Vortex Sparc V.1 & 2, Bushnell TRS-25, and a few others as far as budget red dots go, and the Lucid wins hands down.
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3.
I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings |
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3. I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. 
My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. 
My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. 
They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. |
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I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/A641C6BB-2ED0-4C6B-A988-CDBED08C7AA8_zpsfbelxyq1.jpg My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/B8D3A459-BBB8-441B-AEBD-C1BFD2AA4805_zpsidy33j2o.jpg My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/4216CF31-954C-40BF-A618-87F91BF58133_zpsxlb4z1eo.jpg They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. Quoted:
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3. I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/A641C6BB-2ED0-4C6B-A988-CDBED08C7AA8_zpsfbelxyq1.jpg My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/B8D3A459-BBB8-441B-AEBD-C1BFD2AA4805_zpsidy33j2o.jpg My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/4216CF31-954C-40BF-A618-87F91BF58133_zpsxlb4z1eo.jpg They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. Not going down the my dog is better than your dog trail I have an honest question that you may or may not be able to answer but I thought I would ask . In regards to the kill flash I read some where that a kill flash helps people with an astigmatisim when using a red dot . hopefully your vision is fine and you dont know ,but If not I would be curious to first hand experience . thanks |
| I have a gen 3 hd7 with the quick detach mount and 2x magnifier. I have used bushnell and vortex red dots, and the lucid wins hands down. Awsome customer service too! Before i got the quick detach i stripped the threads of the screws trying to tighten it like a gorilla. I contacted customer service, and Jason, the owner, shipped me out an entire replacement mount and screws for no charge. Even though i screwed up, i was taken care of.......another cool thing is the POI does not change when you switch recticles. IMO, best sight for the money and nothing else in that price range comes close. Buy with confidence |
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Not going down the my dog is better than your dog trail I have an honest question that you may or may not be able to answer but I thought I would ask . In regards to the kill flash I read some where that a kill flash helps people with an astigmatisim when using a red dot . hopefully your vision is fine and you dont know ,but If not I would be curious to first hand experience . thanks Quoted:
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3. I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/A641C6BB-2ED0-4C6B-A988-CDBED08C7AA8_zpsfbelxyq1.jpg My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/B8D3A459-BBB8-441B-AEBD-C1BFD2AA4805_zpsidy33j2o.jpg My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/4216CF31-954C-40BF-A618-87F91BF58133_zpsxlb4z1eo.jpg They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. Not going down the my dog is better than your dog trail I have an honest question that you may or may not be able to answer but I thought I would ask . In regards to the kill flash I read some where that a kill flash helps people with an astigmatisim when using a red dot . hopefully your vision is fine and you dont know ,but If not I would be curious to first hand experience . thanks Understood and agree. I'll limit this response to the astigmatism issue. I do have a little, not much. It is only noticeable with the pure dot, not with the circle dot or the chevron reticles. I almost exclusively shoot with either the circle dot or the chevron. The latter is calibrated pretty accurately for 55 grain M193, so I play with it some. I'll check on whether the plain dot gets rounder with the killflash. I didn't even know I had the condition, its so slight, until I was showing someone else how to test for it by rotating the dot on axis to see if any out of roundness or other effect rotated with the optic or stayed stationary as the dot turned. My friend has it pretty bad and is getting corrective lenses. I could just barely detect a slight elongation of the dot that did not rotate with the dot, as would be the case if the dot were not really round. To be honest, I rarely run the killflash when shooting, but want it on if I should have to be in a real world situation where staying concealed could save my life. I'll check over the weekend and report back. I'm not crazy about running one on a 1x optic, because I can see the honeycomb. On a scope it is invisible. Let me test and report back. |
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Understood and agree. I'll limit this response to the astigmatism issue. I do have a little, not much. It is only noticeable with the pure dot, not with the circle dot or the chevron reticles. I almost exclusively shoot with either the circle dot or the chevron. The latter is calibrated pretty accurately for 55 grain M193, so I play with it some. I'll check on whether the plain dot gets rounder with the killflash. I didn't even know I had the condition, its so slight, until I was showing someone else how to test for it by rotating the dot on axis to see if any out of roundness or other effect rotated with the optic or stayed stationary as the dot turned. My friend has it pretty bad and is getting corrective lenses. I could just barely detect a slight elongation of the dot that did not rotate with the dot, as would be the case if the dot were not really round. To be honest, I rarely run the killflash when shooting, but want it on if I should have to be in a real world situation where staying concealed could save my life. I'll check over the weekend and report back. I'm not crazy about running one on a 1x optic, because I can see the honeycomb. On a scope it is invisible. Let me test and report back. Quoted:
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3. I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/A641C6BB-2ED0-4C6B-A988-CDBED08C7AA8_zpsfbelxyq1.jpg My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/B8D3A459-BBB8-441B-AEBD-C1BFD2AA4805_zpsidy33j2o.jpg My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/4216CF31-954C-40BF-A618-87F91BF58133_zpsxlb4z1eo.jpg They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. Not going down the my dog is better than your dog trail I have an honest question that you may or may not be able to answer but I thought I would ask . In regards to the kill flash I read some where that a kill flash helps people with an astigmatisim when using a red dot . hopefully your vision is fine and you dont know ,but If not I would be curious to first hand experience . thanks Understood and agree. I'll limit this response to the astigmatism issue. I do have a little, not much. It is only noticeable with the pure dot, not with the circle dot or the chevron reticles. I almost exclusively shoot with either the circle dot or the chevron. The latter is calibrated pretty accurately for 55 grain M193, so I play with it some. I'll check on whether the plain dot gets rounder with the killflash. I didn't even know I had the condition, its so slight, until I was showing someone else how to test for it by rotating the dot on axis to see if any out of roundness or other effect rotated with the optic or stayed stationary as the dot turned. My friend has it pretty bad and is getting corrective lenses. I could just barely detect a slight elongation of the dot that did not rotate with the dot, as would be the case if the dot were not really round. To be honest, I rarely run the killflash when shooting, but want it on if I should have to be in a real world situation where staying concealed could save my life. I'll check over the weekend and report back. I'm not crazy about running one on a 1x optic, because I can see the honeycomb. On a scope it is invisible. Let me test and report back. UPDATE: just finished astigmatism test with and without killflash. Sorry to report no improvement with killflash installed. Killflash works well for its intended use, but does not help with astigmatism. At least not for my mild case. Sorry for the temporary thread jack. |
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Why are so many folks jacked up about this Lucid lately? I tried one on my first AR and I thought it was hot garbage. The bluest looking lens I have seen. But I realize everyone's eyes are different. I also bought a Vortex and Primary Arms before putting out the $ to get an Aimpoint PRO and EOTech EXPS3. I would never chose an HD7 over one of the Primary Arms offerings I think you hit the nail on the head. Everyone's eyes are different. Neither my HD7 nor my two M7s have "bluish" lenses. I think the main attraction for must buyers of HD7 is the heavy duty armored design that makes them so rugged. Now that more and more of them are getting out into the shooing community you are going to hear more feedback on how well they perform at their price point. My HD7 in ADM QD mount, with killflash and Butler Creek lens caps. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/A641C6BB-2ED0-4C6B-A988-CDBED08C7AA8_zpsfbelxyq1.jpg My M7 in ADM QD mount for absolute co-witness on my carbine build. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/B8D3A459-BBB8-441B-AEBD-C1BFD2AA4805_zpsidy33j2o.jpg My second M7 mounted low on a my tactical Remington 1100 12 gauge. http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/Mobile%20Uploads/4216CF31-954C-40BF-A618-87F91BF58133_zpsxlb4z1eo.jpg They all run flawlessly. The EOTech type circle dot reticle is extremely rapid for target acquisition. If Aimpoint had a reticle like that . . . but they don't. If EOTech had the small size (4.7 ounces) of the M7 and had the automatic dot intensity and automatic off after two hours to make batteries last for years . . . but they don't. These may not be ready for the sands of Iraq or the mountains of Afghanistan, but I can't get any of them to malfunction and I'm not babying them. When one fails, I'll reconsider. Until then, I have no reason to spend more and a lot of reasons not to. Not going down the my dog is better than your dog trail I have an honest question that you may or may not be able to answer but I thought I would ask . In regards to the kill flash I read some where that a kill flash helps people with an astigmatisim when using a red dot . hopefully your vision is fine and you dont know ,but If not I would be curious to first hand experience . thanks Understood and agree. I'll limit this response to the astigmatism issue. I do have a little, not much. It is only noticeable with the pure dot, not with the circle dot or the chevron reticles. I almost exclusively shoot with either the circle dot or the chevron. The latter is calibrated pretty accurately for 55 grain M193, so I play with it some. I'll check on whether the plain dot gets rounder with the killflash. I didn't even know I had the condition, its so slight, until I was showing someone else how to test for it by rotating the dot on axis to see if any out of roundness or other effect rotated with the optic or stayed stationary as the dot turned. My friend has it pretty bad and is getting corrective lenses. I could just barely detect a slight elongation of the dot that did not rotate with the dot, as would be the case if the dot were not really round. To be honest, I rarely run the killflash when shooting, but want it on if I should have to be in a real world situation where staying concealed could save my life. I'll check over the weekend and report back. I'm not crazy about running one on a 1x optic, because I can see the honeycomb. On a scope it is invisible. Let me test and report back. UPDATE: just finished astigmatism test with and without killflash. Sorry to report no improvement with killflash installed. Killflash works well for its intended use, but does not help with astigmatism. At least not for my mild case. Sorry for the temporary thread jack. yes sorry for jacking your thread .and thank you ms556 for your effort and reply . I used a friends scope that had a kill flash and found it distracting . |
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