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Posted: 7/1/2014 6:52:51 AM EDT
| Do you turn them on at the beginning of the day and then hit a button on them half way through the day to keep them on? Do you just keep them off until you're actually in an engagement? Or do you turn them on before a patrol or other possibly aggressive situation? |
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ACOG /thread This works too. Always ready. Further to the OP...you always wanna have your battery operated opitc on whenever there is the potential for an engagement whether you are abroad or at home. Take that for what it's worth. It's pretty simple to figure out when that time is. |
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Or, did you just buy an AIMPOINT and leave it on all the time even when you were sleeping? I'm part of the aimpoint crowd for this reason at the moment. I was thinking that if something goes bump in the night it is one less thing I have to worry about turning on and consciously doing before being ready to go. However, I'm starting to believe that if you don't have time to hit a button and turn an optic on you didn't have any time at all anyhow. In which case I believe the 'on and ready to go all the time' mindset is something that is hyper-active and not necessarily something that translates to reality. If I'm better served by a superior sight picture and reticle than I am a 'ready to go all damn day' device that doesn't translate to real world... well then I'm better served by an EO than an Aim. |
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EOtech turns off automatically after a 4 hr or 8 hr increment depending on which button you turn it on with. Correct me if I am wrong. Thanx...I did find that the left button (down) programs it to turn off after 4 hours and the right button (up) programs it for 8 hours. I recently bought the XPS2 and never knew that. 
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| I didn't think that the 'ready to go all day' aspect of an Aimpoint was meaningful to us civilians, and had always bought eotechs (3 of them) and acogs (2) in the past. Now that i have an Aimpoint PRO, i can tell you that it really is nice to have. It's not a game-changer, and i wouldn't forego buying something that didn't have that capability because of it, but it really is nice. It makes the optic feel more akin to iron sights, in the sense that it's just there, and always works. No thought process or 'steps' involved. Yes, i once made fun of 'range warriors' for suggesting the same thing, but it really is true. I also find the sight picture to be a lot better with the aimpoint than the eotechs. Much less cluttered, and of course far better than the magnified acogs for close shooting. i never could quite get the 'BAC' two eyes open shooting with the acog down, where with the aimpoint it's instinctive. with the eotechs it's fine as well, but i find the reticle 'busy', pretty distracting especially with the pixelation. |
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Meh, Aimpoint battery life isn't enough to make me pick one over the EOTech reticle. The 1 MOA dot with the circle makes for not only great precision, but makes it super fast to pick up on target. As for people complaining about the EOTech reticle pixelating, you're using it on a higher brightness setting than you need.
If it looks blurry/pixelated, you don't need it that bright. I can turn mine all the way up, and if it's super bright outside, it isn't blurry/pixelated at all. Likewise, in a shady/lower light situation, it looks perfect with the setting just bright enough to be picked up on target in that particular lighting situation. |
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None of my 3 eotechs lose the pixelation at lower brightness settings, it's always clearly discernible (to me). The eotech also washes out in bright light easier than the aimpoint, where the aimpoint is actually too bright most of the time, and i find that the settings on the pro are insufficient. one could be too dim while the next level is too bright, blowing up the dot.
i guess neither is perfect, at least for me. i think weighing all the factors though, the aimpoint is a clear winner for me. it's just easier to use effectively (agian, for me). your mileage may definitely vary... it's very much a personal preference thing. |
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ACOG /thread Actually back up sights that co witness through a red dot sight or back up sights with a QD mount on your magnified optic would be closer to "/thread". ACOGs fail too, been there done that in the red zone. 
Red dot sight always on (Aimpoint) with back up sights always available. -Ray |
| Somewhat OT, but we did have some Elcan M145s. They apparently took batteries of some sort, but they were so bad nobody actually gave a shit enough about them to figure out what they took. They lived a long and safe life in arms rooms and quadcons only seeing the light of day during sensitive items inspections. |
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This works too. Always ready. Further to the OP...you always wanna have your battery operated opitc on whenever there is the potential for an engagement whether you are abroad or at home. Take that for what it's worth. It's pretty simple to figure out when that time is. Quoted:
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ACOG /thread This works too. Always ready. Further to the OP...you always wanna have your battery operated opitc on whenever there is the potential for an engagement whether you are abroad or at home. Take that for what it's worth. It's pretty simple to figure out when that time is. My HD Aimpoimt M3 is on 24/7/365. |
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Do you turn them on at the beginning of the day and then hit a button on them half way through the day to keep them on? Do you just keep them off until you're actually in an engagement? Or do you turn them on before a patrol or other possibly aggressive situation? Turn them on before a mission. Kept if off when just walking around on the COP or FOB. |
| Never had a problem with EOTechs I was issued down range. They were turned on during mission, off when not needed. I run an EXPS and T1 on my personal guns and I prefer the EOTech. Auto shutoff is a non-issue. The 4/8 hour auto shutoff resets itself every time you adjust the brightness setting, so if that is a concern push one of the buttons once in a while and you'll be fine. Battery life and durability are tired arguments.Even cheap Chinese red dots pass the durability test these days. I've seen all optics break. Trijicon, Aimpoint, and EOTech. Become proficient with irons and trust them, not internet commandos. |
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Actually back up sights that co witness through a red dot sight or back up sights with a QD mount on your magnified optic would be closer to "/thread". ACOGs fail too, been there done that in the red zone.
Red dot sight always on (Aimpoint) with back up sights always available. -Ray Quoted:
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ACOG /thread Actually back up sights that co witness through a red dot sight or back up sights with a QD mount on your magnified optic would be closer to "/thread". ACOGs fail too, been there done that in the red zone.
Red dot sight always on (Aimpoint) with back up sights always available. -Ray Serious question: how did the ACOG fail? |
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ACOG /thread Actually back up sights that co witness through a red dot sight or back up sights with a QD mount on your magnified optic would be closer to "/thread". ACOGs fail too, been there done that in the red zone.
Red dot sight always on (Aimpoint) with back up sights always available. -Ray Serious question: how did the ACOG fail? Internal lens came loose and broke, made the reticle completely useless. ACOG was new and I only shot a couple hundred rounds with it on my M4. Used BUIS while traveling back to the IZ. Took the ACOG off, sent it to Trijicon and they fixed it fast and free. Always hated seeing the military issue/use ACOGs with no BUIS. IMHO,ACOGs and Aimpoints are still the best combat/SHTF optics made, but they are made by man and they can/do break. I always tell people, if it's a toy no BUIS needed. Anything else HAVE BUIS! -Ray |
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None of my 3 eotechs lose the pixelation at lower brightness settings, it's always clearly discernible (to me). The eotech also washes out in bright light easier than the aimpoint, where the aimpoint is actually too bright most of the time, and i find that the settings on the pro are insufficient. one could be too dim while the next level is too bright, blowing up the dot. i guess neither is perfect, at least for me. i think weighing all the factors though, the aimpoint is a clear winner for me. it's just easier to use effectively (agian, for me). your mileage may definitely vary... it's very much a personal preference thing. That isn't pixelation, they use a laser diode. That's what lasers look like. Buy a laser pointer, look at the dot. |
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