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1/28/2011 11:02:56 AM EDT
Hello all,
              I got a friend looking for a Acog scope for his AR. because they are so expensive he wants to make sure he get the right one and he doesn't know alot about them so I told him I would ask here because I know the members here are very knowledgeable. He's looking to get one for a AR with a 16 inch barrel / Flat top.  The  other one is a M4 with a 14 Inch barrel with a fixed carrying handle.  We were looking at the Trijicon TA 11.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
1/28/2011 11:39:22 AM EDT
[#1]
Geee...a grand seems like a lot to be willing to drop right out of the gate.   Ur friend may be better served by getting some thing cheaper to try and find out what he wants/needs.   Like Primary Arms ?  It's not Acog, but it has good reputations for bang for your buck.

The other thing you WILL be asked is :   "what r u going to use it for "...  It's not what type of rifle you have, but what you are going to use it for that will dictate types of scope.

OK ....the real experts can hack at him now.

k



1/28/2011 11:41:34 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a TA31ECOS and TA31RCOA4. I really like both. A lot of people do not like the 4x because of the short eye relief. I don't mind it because I shoot ntch.
1/28/2011 11:52:53 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
I have a TA31ECOS and TA31RCOA4. I really like both. A lot of people do not like the 4x because of the short eye relief. I don't mind it because I shoot ntch.


Put me in that category.  I bought a 4x without having ever shot one, and could not get over the short eye relief.  Ended up getting rid of it and got a 1.5x power model.  It has tons of eye relief, but obviously not as much magnification, which I am ok with.  The post above suggesting some hands on before a purchase is good advice.  However, I don't suggest stepping down to a PA to try them out.  If he is ready to go for a ACOG, stick with that.



1/28/2011 12:10:38 PM EDT
[#4]
Have a TA01 carry handled on an old Colt HBAR.  Really enjoy that setup.  3 TA11s: AR in 6.8 on carryhandle, AR in 5.56 on rail, and Aug A3 on rail.  Best magnified optics I own. Eye relief is the reason i ended up with 3 of them.  Also have a TA648 on my M1A - the most difficult one to get happy about but i attribute that to my M1A mount and traditional stock which created head position issues.  Resolved with a troy mcs which can double as a boat anchor.
1/28/2011 12:21:24 PM EDT
[#5]
You can probably find a TA31F in good condition on the EE for $750-800
1/28/2011 12:31:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Personally i'd go for a Ta01nsn or Ta31f.

I got my Ta01nsn for 650$ on the EE. Looked to be brand new as well
1/28/2011 1:24:04 PM EDT
[#7]
16in Get a TA31 F or G
And for the 14.5 The TA31RCO-M4
1/28/2011 2:04:38 PM EDT
[#8]
I have a TA01NSN on my M4gery and a TA31RCO-A4CP om my A4gery.
I like them both. Got the TA01 second hand a d found the TA31 for a hall of a price on Overstock.com
1/28/2011 2:36:45 PM EDT
[#9]
I have a TA11 ACOG don't cheapout.
1/28/2011 3:18:52 PM EDT
[#10]
what would you recommend for a A4 clone?
1/28/2011 3:57:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Geee...a grand seems like a lot to be willing to drop right out of the gate.   Ur friend may be better served by getting some thing cheaper to try and find out what he wants/needs.   Like Primary Arms ?  It's not Acog, but it has good reputations for bang for your buck.

The other thing you WILL be asked is :   "what r u going to use it for "...  It's not what type of rifle you have, but what you are going to use it for that will dictate types of scope.

OK ....the real experts can hack at him now.

k





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1/28/2011 4:32:07 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
what would you recommend for a A4 clone?


TA31RCO-A4
1/28/2011 4:47:39 PM EDT
[#13]
03DesignGroups's Acog Considerations is a good read.
I am also looking for one and just got my hands on my first one this past week, a TA31F and wow was that eye relief short.
1/28/2011 4:58:27 PM EDT
[#14]
I have a TA31F and it's a great optic, the only downside as others have stated is the short eye relief.
With scopes at this price range, I would strongly suggest handling them beforehand if possible.

If I was going to get another one, I'd get either a TA33R8 or a TA31H-G.
1/28/2011 5:28:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Ta31h-g will be my next one. I have an rco and the eye relief f'd my glasses up from smacking them. Just a thought no one has mentioned
1/28/2011 5:44:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
what would you recommend for a A4 clone?


TA31RCO-A4


Man I would love to get that but its more than the rifle.  Guess I will stick withh irons for now
1/28/2011 6:08:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
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what would you recommend for a A4 clone?


TA31RCO-A4


Man I would love to get that but its more than the rifle.  Guess I will stick withh irons for now


I found one like new in the box with all papers for $950 shipped in the EE.
Dont let MSRP prices scare you away. There are deals out there.
1/28/2011 10:00:12 PM EDT
[#18]
I've owned TA-11, TA31 and TA33 series ACOGs. I think the TA33 is probably the ACOG 80-90% of rifle owners should have on their gun. TA-11's are just frikken huge and don't offer much magnification-I'm sure they are great on a belt fed. The TA33 was like watching a movie screen and the red reticle sucked-in the daytime my eye wanted to follow it rather than look at the target area and at night it was too dim to be useful.  A TA31 in Amber or Green would be pretty good if you don't mind a shorter eye relief-I don't remember it being a real problem for me though.

So anyway, TA33-8. It's only 3x so CQB shooting doesn't suffer much and the BDC reticle goes out to 600 meters which is as far as anyone can reasonably want to shoot a 16" carbine with military ball ammo. Eye relief is really good on this model and you can get the reticle in a Chevron or a dot in a horseshoe. I'd pick the latter, especially if you wear glasses or your eyes get blurry when you get tired. The tip of the chevron will "grow" when it gets blurry and you'll be a few MOA off  and shoot low.
1/28/2011 10:41:18 PM EDT
[#19]
I have the TA11J-RMR on my Colt 6920...I love it...the eye relief is great and I actually prefer the larger scope size compared to the shorter 4x32.  I would definately recommend shooting all the models you can before buying, it's a lot of money to regret your choice later.
1/29/2011 4:21:53 AM EDT
[#20]
I am enjoying the TA44SG-10 Compact.

Tons of eye relief, lightweight, and enough magnifaction 1.5x to make things pop.

Hard to find with Green Circle Dot but happy with purchase.
1/29/2011 5:20:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
what would you recommend for a A4 clone?


TA31RCO-A4


Man I would love to get that but its more than the rifle.  Guess I will stick withh irons for now


I bought one a few years back for $850 brand new. Ebay was running some sort of discount so I got $100 off. Just wait for a good deal. From everything I've read Trijicon will take care of you even if you are not the original owner. Just about all of my optics setups cost more than the rifle. Good optics cost money but I would rather have something that is dependable, plus the resale value is usually good. I had a TA01ECOS that I traded toward another scope. The dealer gave me $50 under what I originally paid for it. Not too bad for a used optic. I still have my TA31ECOS that I bought at the same time as the TA01ECOS and they go for about $400 more brand new than what I paid at the time.
1/29/2011 6:15:03 AM EDT
[#22]
AR Optics FAQ, entry #5 is specifically dedicated to ACOGs
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