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Posted: 6/7/2010 9:48:56 PM EDT
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I've been doing some research into Leupold scopes. I currently have a Remington 700 that I am thinking about putting it on, but somewhere down the road I'd like to build an AR10. I've been looking at different optics on Midwest Hunters Outlet website, looking around the $200-$400 range. I understand the variance in zoom, whether it be 3-9x or 4-12x, and I've done some other research as well. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand the objective diameter, which generally seems to be 40mm, to be indicative of how much light it lets in, so a 40mm would let in more light than the 33mm. I also understand eye relief to mean the distance your eye must be away from the optic, so for a 3.7 eye relief your eye is 3.7 inches away from the optic. Am I correct in my understanding so far?
That being said, I'm a little confused in some differences beyond there. First of all, is it better to have more eye relief or less? I feel that more may be a little better, but I have no reason to rely on that assumption other than the one time I was bit in the eye by my current scope. My second point of confusion is where Leupold comes in. Out of the 8 Leupold scopes I selected in my price range, 3 of them seem to be exactly the same besides color although they have different manufacturers numbers and prices. The information is as follows: Leupold 61255 VX-1 3-9x, 40mm, 3.7 eye relief. $239.99 (Black) Leupold 56775 VX-II 3-9x, 40mm, 3.7 eye relief. $299.72 (Black Gloss) Leupold 56865 VX-II 3-9x, 40mm, 3.7 eye relief. $301.42 (Silver) The ones I was looking at with higher eye relief are as follows: Leupold 56160 Rifleman 3-9x, 40mm, 4.2 eye relief. $207.83 (Matte Black) Leupold 56170 Rifleman 4-12x, 40mm, 4.9 eye relief. $263.99 (Matte Black) Leupold 56855 VX-II 3-9x, 40mm, 4.7 eye relief. $284.48 (Matte Black) What do you guys think about a recommendation, and what's the deal with the fluctuation in prices for what seems like not much fluctuation in quality? Thanks for the expert opinion |
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The reason the same thing costs different is some folks make there money by volume, some by higher priced items, sone rely on name recognition
The biggest factor that objective weighs in on is field of view. The maintube would affect light gathering more(1",30mm 35mm) the reason scopes have diifferent power is they are designed for different applications. Find out the distances you want to shoot and go from there. |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. You know what's funny? What is a Rifleman now was a VX-II some years back....and we thought they were the best then. When I was selling optics I was amazed at the folks that couldn't tell the difference when SHOWN what to look for.  I guess everybody has to evaluate exactly what they need in realistic terms.
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My neighbor picked up a Rifkeman 3-9x40 at Walmart for $199. I like the clear view through it...just holding it.
He ordered a Primary Arms mount and then we will try it out. I only have experience with the Mark AR scopes, 3x9 and the 1.4-5 scopes.Picking scopes is a complicated mess for me. There are so many to pick from and price ranges.Reading reviews on here helps. |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. QFT! The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. QFT! The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. Where do the Mark AR line compare with? |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. QFT! The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. Where do the Mark AR line compare with? The VX II line |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. QFT! The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. Where do the Mark AR line compare with? The VX II line The Mark AR is a good scope line. Just wish they had a 2-7 or 2.5-8 scope in the line up. |
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My neighbor picked up a Rifleman 3-9x40 at Walmart for $199. I like the clear view through it...just holding it. He ordered a Primary Arms mount and then we will try it out. I only have experience with the Mark AR scopes, 3x9 and the 1.4-5 scopes.Picking scopes is a complicated mess for me. There are so many to pick from and price ranges.Reading reviews on here helps. Funny, I did the EXACT same thing as your neighbor, picked up the Rifleman at Walmart and ordered a $25 scope mount from PA. It works GREAT for me. I have taken it out once and got sub MOA performance out of it. Works great for a $240 scope (Scope+scope caps+scope mount) |
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My neighbor picked up a Rifleman 3-9x40 at Walmart for $199. I like the clear view through it...just holding it. He ordered a Primary Arms mount and then we will try it out. I only have experience with the Mark AR scopes, 3x9 and the 1.4-5 scopes.Picking scopes is a complicated mess for me. There are so many to pick from and price ranges.Reading reviews on here helps. Funny, I did the EXACT same thing as your neighbor, picked up the Rifleman at Walmart and ordered a $25 scope mount from PA. It works GREAT for me. I have taken it out once and got sub MOA performance out of it. Works great for a $240 scope (Scope+scope caps+scope mount) His Primary Arms mount came in today and i got it mounted up.I will sight it in monday.He is out of town...traveling nurse and will be back in 6 months. I took the gun outside just looking around the landscape and its pretty clear scope.$199 plus tax on scope and $70.85 delivered on mount. |
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The main difference in those you listed other than power and obj. size is the lens coatings which will affect the transfer of light. Also as you go up in price the wind/ele adjustment goes from friction to click stops. Yup, my rule is VXII at a minimum. QFT! The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. Where do the Mark AR line compare with? The VX II line What about the Mark 4 MR/T's? |
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The Rifleman and VX-1 lines need to go away. They already have the Redfield line. Stop imitating Bushnell with their 87 different lines. Where do the Mark AR line compare with? The VX II line What about the Mark 4 MR/T's? Different kettle of fish. The 1" is ~ to the VX-III, the 30mm are IMO, beyond this. They are very good scopes, but way beyond the price point that the OP was looking at. |
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