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I was recently in the position where I needed to choose between an EOTech and an Aimpoint, as I have sold off my ACOG, and wanted something that was a bit better for close up.
Here's how my thought process worked during the decision (which was between the XPS-2 and the ML-3). During my research, I got my hands on both models, tried both of them out (briefly), researched countless hours, including reading reports of people who probably shoot more in a year than I will in a lifetime. Cost While initially, the EOtech looks to have a slight advantage here, when I compared apples-to-apples, that advantage almost completely disappeared. While the EOtech comes with an integral mount, it's neither a QD mount, nor does it allow for a proper 1/3rd co-witness. Cost when you factor in a LaRue mount, the cost is within $10 of each other ($559 & $569). When you factor in the cost of batteries, it's actually easy to show the Aimpoint as being a less expensive option. Durability I doubt that this point could ever be argued in favor of the Eotech. While L3 seems to be making improvements, there are still way too many accounts of Eotechs breaking during carbine courses. On the flip side, Aimpoints have a well-deserved reputation for durability, even when abused. Battery Life Another indisputable point for the Aimpoint. 50,000 hours vs. 600 hours is a pretty lopsided comparison. To make it worse for the EOtech, there have been some reports on forums that the 700 hours isn't exactly accurate, which isn't surprising really, since the advertised battery life usually is very optimistic in the Eotechs. In a thread over at LF, Pat Rogers says that the XPS battery life is 10-20% of what is advertised, based on what he is seeing through his classes. Reticle Design I think the reticle in the Eotech is probably a better design, and a bit quicker to pick up, since you have a large reticle that catches the attention of your eye, and leads you to the smaller dot. In addition, it has some capability for ranging, although ranging probably isn't that important at the distances these would be used as. However, the 65 MOA circle seems to help people with leads on moving targets, and that has value in my mind. Personally, I still prefer the reticle in the TA-33GH that I recently sold, but the Eotech does have a nice reticle. I should mention here that I chose the ML-3 with the 2MOA dot, which is the same size as the dot in the TA-33, and that it's known that the human brain has a hard time telling the difference between a 1MOA dot and a 2MOA dot. The only part of the Eotech reticle I didn't like was how pixelated it looks. For some reason, that actually was a bit distracting to me. Weight This is pretty close to a tie, with the Aimpoint just slightly lighter than the Eotech XPS (keeping in mind the LaRue mount/riser). Operating controls The Eotech's controls seem like they require a bit more fine motor control, which might be lacking in a time-is-life situation, especially in contrast to the Aimpoint's always on capability. Also, the Eotech has to be set for brightness every time it's turned on. While the auto-off of the Eotech makes sense, given the limited battery life of the series, I prefer that I can set the Aimpoint where I want it, and leave it on. Nothing to fiddle with if I have to bring it to bear. The above may not be a factor for some people, but in my situation, I feel this is fairly important, as this particular carbine will shortly be my primary HD weapon. In my particular situation, I can't leave firearms out of the safe, not with a young child in the house, so anything that helps me bring the weapon to bear more quickly in the event of a break-in, is most welcome. Some may say that pressing a button isn't exactly time intensive, however, you have to either know in advance the setting you intend to use and press the button repeatedly, or adjust the brightness as you look through the sight. Either way, those additional steps are unnecessary with the Aimpoint. Country of Manufacture While I tend to support American companies, I don't do so blindly. If a product is made better in another country, I will purchase that product, and hope that the American manufacturer will instead acknowledge the competition, and rise up to meet it. My decision As mentioned a bit earlier, I decided to go with the Aimpoint ML-3, in a Larue mount. I liked the positives of the Eotech, and at some point I think I would like to have a XPS model, I am going to wait until they can continue to improve both the durability and the battery life of the optic. Right now, the negatives of the Eotech are just too overwhelming for me to spend my money on it. |
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I like EOtech's 65 MOA reticle with the 1MOA dot. However, I went with a 4MOA Aimpoint due to battery life, and, just my personal opinion, I like the way it looks on a rifle. I don't really see the need for a 1 or 2 MOA dot, for the type of shooting I do (practical rifle matches, etc.) the 4MOA is very good out to 250 yards or so. That said, I'd buy either one with confidence, I just prefer the simplicity of an Aimpoint. |
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I've owned both.
Eotech 511.A65 Average batter life was a week when turning it on only to use it and turning it off when done. Finally it wouldn't come on. Sent in for repair, came back, worked for a week. Repeat. Sold it with full disclosure. Aimpoint ML3. Had it for 4 years, It's one year into it's second battery and the only time it's been off was when the first battery died. It's been banged, beaten, kryloned about 800 times and it just works. The speed between the two is the same for me. I practice snapping into a sight pic every day that I'm home so it's pretty natural for me. |
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| I own both, and yes the EOTech reticel is better for close up work, however the battery life sucks and turning it on is kind of a pain if you have a BUIS in front of it. It's hard fo rme to get my fingers in between there. So in a situation where you need to get to your rifle in a matter of seconds for HD lets say it's too slow to turn on and then dial up the brightness. Aimpoints you can even leave turned on the battery lasts so long and if you keep it off theres a big dial on the side of my micro so you can turn in on in a fraction of a second. |
| I have both. Eotech on my duty m4, and an Aimpoint M2 on my personal m4. I used to prefer the Eotech reticule for CQB work, just need to have spare batteries on hand at all times. (you WILL NOT get the advertised 200 hours out of the N size batteries). Lately though, I like the Aimpoint dot more and more. Now that I am liking the Aimpoint dot, I really see no reason to deal with the battery issues with the Eotech. I have a 511 that uses the N size batteries which I strongly recommend against, If you go with an Eotech, stick with one that uses AA or CR123, the guys on my team using those havent had any issues whatsoever. Those if us using the N size batteries have issues constantly. Overall, if I had to choose one, I would go with an Aimpoint and a quality mount. |
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Originally Posted By Bizzarolibe:
Eotech, because: 1) I'm extremely partial to the reticle design. 2) I prefer viewing the reticle through a window rather than a tube. To those who say that it doesn't matter when you're shooting with both eyes open, consider this: your eyes rely on light transmission to create an image. Tubular red dots restrict the majority of the light coming to whichever eye is lined up with the sight. Therefore, despite the fact that it appears only as a "shadow" when both eyes are open, there is still less combined light coming into your eyes. Less light = darker image. 3) Integral mount 4) About 2/3 the cost of an Aimpoint + quality mount. I like Aimpoints though, they're still nice sights. 3. The comp M4 and M4s come with integral mounts. 4. Depends on which ones you're talking about specifically. A 553 costs about as much or more than a CompML3 or CompM3 and a decent mount, and only a little less than an M4s or M4. |
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| I like the EOtech because the reticle works well for me. I really like the 65 moa circle around the 1 moa dot. The 65 moa works well for quick target acquisition and the 1 moa dot can be really precise even unmagnified at a good distance. Its probably worth noting I'm a new shooter. Just my opinion |
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Dead batteries are common on Eotechs, You can't leave them on, so if/when you have to use your rifle, you have one more step to remember to get your sight working. Eotech reticules are nice because they're so large.
If I was in a job where I knew I was going to be going into a place and using my rifle, the Eotech would be great since you already know you have to use it, so you can replace the batteries and turn it on before you roll out. If you keep a rifle ready for whatever 24/7, the Aimpoint is a better way to go. |
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I owned both and like the Aimpoint better.
I started off with a EOTech 512 and had no issues with it. I then bought a Aimpoint M4s. I used the Aimpoint for a while then tried the EOTech and found the dot/ring to busy. I do like the M4s better for other reasons such as: Constant on One battery with long life (although after a year I still had the same batteries in the 512) Twist to change instead of push button I will probably end up getting one of the newer EOTechs one day. 
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| I prefer the Aimpoint. Experience with the EOTech is pretty limited, but the reticle was too fuzzy. The battery life of the Aimpoint is definitely a plus. I also don't think the EOTech would hold up to the abuse that a bunch of AF cops put their Aimpoints through. We manage to break Aimpoints occassionally, the EOTech doesn't seem nearly as robust. Pretty sure we'd destroy those in no time. That's purely subjective though since I don't have much experience with the EOTech. |
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Originally Posted By EMSflyer:
The Aimpoint holds up to the recoil of my FAL very well. The FAL is famous for trashing sub-par optics so the fact that it survives being used on the FAL says a lot. I'd go for the 2 MOA dot. Good luck, EMSflyer I honestly dont think thats a problem, the coast guard has eotechs on their .50BMG rifles in their helocopters |
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Originally Posted By InfiniteGrim:
Originally Posted By EMSflyer:
The Aimpoint holds up to the recoil of my FAL very well. The FAL is famous for trashing sub-par optics so the fact that it survives being used on the FAL says a lot. I'd go for the 2 MOA dot. Good luck, EMSflyer I honestly dont think thats a problem, the coast guard has eotechs on their .50BMG rifles in their helocopters That may not really be a problem, but using any optic on an FAL for a period of time is a good shake down. I've owned 7.62 semi-autos since back in the 80's and I have seen a lot of trashed scopes over the years. The Aimpoint is a very tough optic. I like the EOTech really well too. However, my son uses one on his 20" HBAR AR15. His EOTech has already been back to the factory for a repair and it's only been used on a heavy 5.56 rifle with very little recoil. The NV feature stopped working. They did fix it for free and the turn around time was only 2 weeks! So we did get very good service and we were pleased with that. If the OP is spending his own $$ I'm sure he would want the most reliable equipment available. So that's why I voted Aimpoint. |
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I prefer the Eotech. I've had a 512 w/a GG&G QD Lever, for almost five years, and a 552 for just over 2. I've never had a problem with either. Granted, I only turn them on when I use them, but I've only replaced the batteries in the 512 once, never have in the 552. I keep an extra set on each rifle just in case. No comparison for battery life against the aimpoints, but not terrible.
I prefer the Eotech for larger field of view, smaller aiming dot, and the 65 MOA outer ring lets me guess my hold overs a lot easier. They do take some getting used to tho. |
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EOTech is my choice. I have the EOTech MPO 557 G23.FTS,NV Holographic Sight. I comes with the 3X rear optics which allows for both CQB and extended range when needed with the flip-out 3X. I also shoot night projects using the AN/PVS-14.
The 557 provides the very low intensity reticule for NV work. Aimpoint also has the Comp M model with NV adaptability but does not provide range approximation that the EOTech has. Battery life is a toss-up for me. AA cells are inexpensive and using the rule of 2's, I always have plenty on-hand. I use Aimpoint on my race-gun for two eyes open quick acquisition. Can't beat it for that. |
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I have used both, buy only own an EOtech at this time and have used if extensively more than an Aimpoint.
On the one hand it is a little bit cheaper and uses batteries that you can buy at Costco. I love the reticle as well for quick target acquisition. However, the Aimpoint is easier to brighten/dim. |
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I have both and while for many years I was leaning towards EOTech I will now recommend Aimpoint. Here's why: Aimpoint Pros: (ML2 and Comp C models) - Battery life - Never turns off unless you turn it off or the battery dies - Simple dot - Controls quicker to use as a lefty (for me). This was a big reason; you just have to get some part of your hand on the rotational knob to change brightness, turn it on, etc. - FOV acceptable especially when shooting with both eyes open - Plenty of mounting solutions available at varying costs EOTech Pros: (512) - More precise center dot - Very good FOV - AA models have decent battery life but nowhere near the Aimpoint. (I only own an AA model). - Easier to mount out of the box and just use vs the Aimpoint requiring some kind of mount - Most models Less expensive than the Aimpoint Cons: Aimpoint - Requires a separate mount to get it high enough to work on most AR platforms, smaller FOV, higher initial cost + mount, 4 MOA but I've not had a problem shooting out to 300 yards with it. (yes I know 2 MOA dots are available) EOTech - Battery life, risers for it take up more rail space, control locations require you to hit the right button multiple times to make adjustments |
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Have an EOTech 512 and an Aimpoint T1 EOTech failed because of the junk industrial batteries the factory supplied. Cleaned it out with electric parts cleaner and popped in some Energizer lithiums, never had problems after that. T1 hasn't had any issues. Battery life has been good so far. Light weight and size is nice for a KISS setup. The EOTech reticle is my personal favorite. I'm much faster and more accurate with it. I want to like the T1, but I don't shoot as well with it. Will most likely be going with the new mini XPS line from EOTech for my next optic. |
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Originally Posted By SIG-shooter:
I prefer the reticle of the EOTech hands down, but the battery life of an Aimpoint is phenomenal 
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My fleet of RDS are dominated by Aimpoints. The controls are simple and easy to adjust and you can use any 30mm ring (repeat zero preferred). If you are worried about batteries, a Comp M/M2/M3 with a Larue LT129 or LT150 and a double battery module allows you to carry two extra on the weapon. Get the M4S is you want AA. I still have one Eotech. I do like the reticle and you can do some simple range estimation with it. However it doesn't seem bright enough on the highest setting in daylight. At night is not a problem. I do prefer this for use with a monocular NVD behind it. |
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Here is my opinion from someone with not so great eyes.
While I really like the reticle in the EoTech, I have an astigmatism in my right eye that prevents me from being able to use it. Even with the sight turned down, it is very blury to me. Looking with both eyes open, I can't distinguish the aiming point with my right eye. Ended up getting rid of the one I had. I like the Aimpoint 2 MOA dot. No problems with it. I did try (don't have) an Aimpoint with the 4 MOA dot. Dot looks like a big comma. Could not use it even turned down. I know Trijicon wasn't on the list but I have not had any problems seeing or using any of the Acog varieties. I haven't tried their reflex sight but I suspect I would have the same problems with them. If you are comtemplating a purchase and you have any vision issues, try these sights in all types of settings (light-dark) if possible before purchasing. And don't give up if the first one you try doesn't work for you. I found out I could use and shoot with the 2 MOA Aimpoint pretty good. |
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I've been through 511s, 512s, 552s and now a 553. There were a few CompMs, MLs, M2s, an H-1 and one oddball one- a model where the front lens was not part of the enclosure- it was the inner tube that extended out and made a bell. Problem is, when I turned the lens cover, it twisted the tube, ruined the Aimpoint and Aimpoint CS wouldn't do anything for me, absolutely nothing. They said they found this problem common after there were out for a few years and couldn't replace them all. GREAT warranty!!! Anyway, I now have the 553 and love it. Outer ring gets you on target fast enough and the tiny 1MOA dot (actually 1/3) is a nice feature for more precise shooting. I like the fact that it takes the same batteries my SF lights do but I do wish the hologram/laser was easier on the batteries...
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Aimpoint CompM4 all the way for me. I have only limited time looking through the EOTechs but I much prefer the "uncluttered" single, small 2 MOA dot that is standard on the CompM4.
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| I've used an EOTech 512 for a few years now and I'm very happy with it. I have found no difficulty in using the controls and the scope is build to see more abuse than I'll ever put it through. |
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Aimpoint for me.
1. Battery life 2. Reliability 3. Simple dot reticle 4. Small/light (Micro series specifically) |
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Have shot both and will be buying the EOTech for all the reasons mentioned by others.
-Question to the people who say battery life is the main reason for not wanting the EOTech: 1000 hours battery life on a AA driven 512 equals almost 45 days, why not simply replace the batteries once a month and enjoy the other features of the sight. Do you really need 80,000 hours or ~9 years of battery life? Are you really going to leave a single battery in there that long and trust your life to it? I am honestly trying to understand the need for 5-9 years of battery life when AA batteries are so plentiful and easy to change out. |
| I actually don't see any advantages in the Eotech sights. Cluttered reticle, auto turn off, battery drain while OFF in storage and push button controls are all negatives in my book. And, to answer your question on the batteries, I don't put alkaline batteries in high $$$ items. Alkaline batteries are too prone to leaking. Therefore, I would be forced to use lithium AAs. One lithium AA in my Aimpoint M4 will last over 8 years. If I replaced the AA batteries every month like you suggest, I would need to purchase almost 200 batteries for the Eotech over the same time period. Lithium batteries are about $1.50 each... So, the Eotech would cost an extra $300 in battery cost if I took your advice. |
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Originally Posted By fnslpmark112:
I actually don't see any advantages in the Eotech sights. Cluttered reticle, auto turn off, battery drain while OFF in storage and push button controls are all negatives in my book. And, to answer your question on the batteries, I don't put alkaline batteries in high $$$ items. Alkaline batteries are too prone to leaking. Therefore, I would be forced to use lithium AAs. One lithium AA in my Aimpoint M4 will last over 8 years. If I replaced the AA batteries every month like you suggest, I would need to purchase almost 200 batteries for the Eotech over the same time period. Lithium batteries are about $1.50 each... So, the Eotech would cost an extra $300 in battery cost if I took your advice. Although I personally like the EOTech sight picture better, what you wrote makes sense, thank you. What are your thoughts on rechargeable Lithiums for an application like this. That is the direction I will probably go unless someone can gives me good reason to do otherwise. |
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I would not use any rechargeable battery in an optic that will be used for defense. I don't trust them to hold a charge. I would hate to die because I saved a few bucks on my battery budget.
P.S. I was being a bit silly about the battery cost for the Eotech. You wouldn't have to change them every month. But, you would have to change them much, much more often than on an Aimpoint. |
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Both are fine, durable optics. It really comes down to what works for you and your eyes. Personally, all I use is EOTechs, not counting my ACOGs and one PA T-1 clone.
For ME, I find the EOs to be reliable and much easier and faster for target aquisition than Aimpoints. I like the big window, the holographic effect, laser instead of an LED and the "ring of death" (65MOA ring). I'm just not comfortable looking through a tube to find one little dot for CQB. I have 512's, 557's and XPS's, and none of them have ever failed me. Sorry, but the ability to leave an Aimpoint locked in a safe while turned on just doesn't impress me. If you need to put your weapon into service quickly, I just don't see how pushing a little rubber button on the EO's is going to be a big deal. Same thing with battery maintenance....I don't leave batteries in ANYTHING valuable for longer than 6-8 months. I do have a PA T-1 clone with LaRue mount on my AR pistol, because it suits the purpose and is very small. It's worked flawlessly, and I just couldn't justify spending $600 bones for a "dot in a tube". I have owned Aimpoints in the past, and like I said, they're fine, tough, quality optics, but the EO's simply work better for me. It should come down to personal preference and what works for you, not some bogus "I heard" or "that's cool". I think (IMHO) that the 100 Bazillion-hour battery life thing has turned into more of a gimmick than a valuable "feature", but lots of people like it, so for them it's a great deal. Once again, buy what works for YOU. Both are excellent choices. Unless the sun burns out or nuclear physics takea a dramatic turn, I've always got my ACOGS anyway. |
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Originally Posted By JeremySS:
Have shot both and will be buying the EOTech for all the reasons mentioned by others. -Question to the people who say battery life is the main reason for not wanting the EOTech: 1000 hours battery life on a AA driven 512 equals almost 45 days, why not simply replace the batteries once a month and enjoy the other features of the sight. Do you really need 80,000 hours or ~9 years of battery life? Are you really going to leave a single battery in there that long and trust your life to it? I am honestly trying to understand the need for 5-9 years of battery life when AA batteries are so plentiful and easy to change out. So if we go by this logic, and change out the batteries every month where dose that put us? Let's say average $3 a month for quality battery's like the one supplied with the Comp M4 a Duracell plus. $3 X 12 Months comes out to $36 X that by 8 for the years the M4 will run with it's supplied battery, and you get $288. It sounds like you are well on your way to saving enough money to buy another sight. |
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Originally Posted By WasatchAR:
Originally Posted By JeremySS:
Have shot both and will be buying the EOTech for all the reasons mentioned by others. -Question to the people who say battery life is the main reason for not wanting the EOTech: 1000 hours battery life on a AA driven 512 equals almost 45 days, why not simply replace the batteries once a month and enjoy the other features of the sight. Do you really need 80,000 hours or ~9 years of battery life? Are you really going to leave a single battery in there that long and trust your life to it? I am honestly trying to understand the need for 5-9 years of battery life when AA batteries are so plentiful and easy to change out. So if we go by this logic, and change out the batteries every month where dose that put us? Let's say average $3 a month for quality battery's like the one supplied with the Comp M4 a Duracell plus. $3 X 12 Months comes out to $36 X that by 8 for the years the M4 will run with it's supplied battery, and you get $288. It sounds like you are well on your way to saving enough money to buy another sight. My point is that $3 a month for batteries (only if you change them every month with super high quality Li batteries) is nothing for an application like this IF you like the overall features and sight picture of the EOTech better. Let's even say that you can only get 600 instead of 1000 hours of use out of the batteries, that is 25 days of continuous ON time, so even if you never turned the sight off (which is not possible due to the auto-off function) you would only then have to change the batteries once per month. Guys on here talk about shooting 1000's of rounds per month at $0.40-$0.50 per round and then bitch about replacing $3 worth of batteries every few months 
Now the arguments on sight picture preference and durability are quite valid, so the question about battery life again becomes, how many of us are really going to leave a single battery in a device for 5-8 years and trust our life to it? Batteries routinely go bad on the shelf in less time than this and could just as easily go bad sitting in the Aimpoint. So even with the Aimpoint, I would feel compelled to change the batteries out on a routine basis as the implications of a battery failure are obviously much higher than if the batteries go dead in your TV remote. In practical use the EOTech's battery life is more than acceptable and should not be a deciding factor over which sight to choose. |
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I own both: EOTech 512, Aimpoint Comp ML3. The EOTech is a clean package: you get the mount and sight in one piece. The Aimpoint requires a quality mount. In terms of optical quality, both are good. The EOTech reticle is awesome but the Aimpoint works just as well. The Aimpoint's longer battery life and better electronics give it the edge. |
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Own: Aimpoint CompM4, Aimpoint H-1 Mount: A lot of people list the Eotech integral mount as a pro. I'll go ahead and say it's a big con for me. If you want a good QD mount for an Eotech you're basically adding a QD rail to your rail. Yo Dawg I heard you like rails so we added rails to your rails so you can take off your Eotech and put on a scope with more rails. With my Aimpoints I can take off the mounts and put whatever mount on I want. It keeps the profile lower, the weight down, etc. Battery: It can't be argued that the Aimpoints have phenomenal battery life and beat any other RDS on the market. Even on higher settings, you'd still measure Aimpoint battery life in years. I don't want to have to tell the guy trying to kill me to hang on while I change out a battery. I don't want my optic to shut off to save it's battery. It should be on when I need it. FOV: Wtf? This isn't even a point. There is no FOV on red dots since you use them with both eyes open. People need to stop mentioning FOV because it's giving misinformation to people new to optics like the Aimpoints and Eotechs. The only thing I can say about this that would give a slight advantage to Eotech would be if your angle is off enough, the Aimpoint dot can bit a little hard to find. I wouldn't really list that as a pro or con. Just something that some people might have an issue with if they don't have a good shooting position. However, if you're position is bad enough to make it hard to see the Aimpoint dot, the Eotech isn't going to be perfect either. Ease of use: Aimpoint hands down. From any angle you should be able to get to the Aimpoint control. A BUIS won't get in the way. A magnifier won't get in the way. You can look and know how bright the dot is going to be without having to look through the sight. Made in the USA? As long as it's not made in China is my mantra here. I want something reliable and high quality. I'm ok with buying a few parts out of the USA. Reticule: Eotech is busy. Aimpoint is simple. 1MOA dot vs 2MOA dot isn't a huge difference. I find the 1MOA dots hard to see. 4MOA dots are too big. 2~3MOA dots are perfect for me. I cannot stress enough that I believe the reticule cannot be listed as a pro or con for either optic. This is hands down a personal preference. It depends on what you're going to use the weapon for. It depends on your eyesight. It depends on whether you're hanging low and to the left or high and right on any given day. Almond Joy vs Mounds. Durability: Aimpoint. Proven. There are exceptions and an Aimpoint can go bad and an Eotech can run with no problems. Overall, statistics (99% of which are made up) show the Aimpoint to last longer with less issues. Footprint: Older Eotechs are huge. XPS are small. Most Aimpoints are pretty large. Micros are TINY. I would say in order of largest footprint to smallest is Older Eotechs, Aimpoint Comps, Eotech XPS, Aimpoint Micros. Personally I would never use an older Eotech. XPS or an Aimpoint only for me. Overall: Try both. Buy both. Buy an ACOG too! |
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Aimpoint for me.
Simple reticle - no clutter to distract you. Battery life that is measured in years. Turn it on, leave it on, change it each presidential election. Incredibly water resistant. Simple to use. Once it's zeroed, there's just one knob needed to operate it. |
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Had an Aimpoint, was OK but it was hard for me to see the dot. It also gave me a "looking through a scope" feeling, that I don't have with the Eotech. I like Eotechs better. |
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I apologize if this post violates the rule about posting from personal experience only, but my thread was locked by a moderator and this one was linked in that post, so I take that to mean I should ask my questions in this thread from now on.
What is the deal with the XPS-2 battery life? It advertises 600 hours, but somebody said that "Pat Rogers" is claiming it is realistically only 10-20% that amount. Way too low, in my opinion. Do the XPS-2s have the same problem as the 511s with the battery draining even while off? 500-600 hours isn't so bad, but 100-200 hours is! And how does the Holographic sight look on the EOTechs? I've never used either so I don't know what to expect. I'd like to try before I buy, but I don't know of how I can do that with the EOTechs to be sure that the HOLO sight will/will not work for me. EDIT: I'm looking at the OPMOD EXPS-2. It seems like the best EOTech option I can get. One thing that concerns me is what it says regarding return to zero: "repeatable zero up to 2 MOA." What does this mean? If I remove the sight and then put it back on, it won't fire on target any more? If I throw the weapon around, the zero will be off? What if I use the QD lever and put it back on ... will the zero still be off? |
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Originally Posted By GreenM4Guy:
I prefer the reticle of the EoTech, but the battery life of the aimpoint is impressive. I just prefer the smaller 1 MOA dot in the EOTech. But i must say the batterry life is not the best.  I feel the same way. I just bought an EXPS 2-0 but I prefer the Aimpoint for the reason you state. I have a Comp M4 and the life you get out of one AA battery is crazy |
| im not even going to vote as they are both great sights. i have a eotech 512 (AA battery) on my personal weapon and a aimpoint m4 on my military weapon. on the eotech i found that a riser mount help me out a lot (6'4") with tilting my neck and the rear riser on the larue ecos mount put my aimpoint mag. dead center and cleared my irons. Now the aimpoint i had in afganistan took a lot of beating every day i slammed it on the floor against the fire extinguisher if i was driving or in the gunners turret mount. After 5 months on beating it was a touch high and to the right and this is with removal of the sight for cleaning so i can say the aimpoint is super tuff. The aimpoint also lasted my 12 month tour with out a battery change (AA battery). |
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