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5/1/2010 7:45:40 PM EDT
i am looking for some binoculars to take with me to the range . i would like to beable to see holes in my target at 100-200 yds .
there are so many choices i can even think of makeing one ...  here is a list from midway , i have purchased alot of stuff from them with great resaults .

thanks  



http://www.midwayusa.com/Search/#Price asc
5/1/2010 9:52:55 PM EDT
[#1]
Why not go with a spotting scope?
5/2/2010 9:19:31 AM EDT
[#2]
I have  8x Kahles binoculars which work superbly for their intended purpose. These will not even come close to what you need to do.

As stated above you need a spotting scope. Many cheap ones out there when on sale. Look thru one before buying. A cheap education.
5/2/2010 9:43:31 AM EDT
[#3]
With optics, it is always about how much $$ you have to spend.

At the $200 or so price point, the 20x60 Pentax PCF WP Bino's would be good, as would the 16x50 Nikon Action Extreme Bino's.

Both need a tripod and come with a tripod adapter.

How much $$ do you have to spend?

I would consider a spotting scope, as they are easier to carry.

Midway USA does not have a good selection, consider Vortex Optics and SWFA.com (both of which are ARFcom supporters).
5/2/2010 10:23:41 AM EDT
[#4]
i have never used a spotting scope , is that like a range finder ?
5/2/2010 10:30:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
i have never used a spotting scope , is that like a range finder ?


High magnification monocular, can be mounted on a low tripod or other camera tripod.  Can be fixed or variable magnification.  Fairly bulky with large objective lens.  Range finder is an option, I suppose.

Sam
5/2/2010 11:08:20 AM EDT
[#6]
really i would just like to beable to see my groups with out walking down range ...

price , i am not looking for some thing great just the basic , $50 or so would nice ...
5/2/2010 11:50:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Get a spotting scope. I've been using some POS Bushnell for years. It's falling apart, and nowhere as nice as a quality spotting scope, but it's better than binoculars.



They are sort of like small telescopes on a tripod

5/2/2010 12:06:40 PM EDT
[#8]
so you have no problem veiwing holes you punch at 100 yds with your bushnell ?

thanks
5/2/2010 2:29:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
really i would just like to beable to see my groups with out walking down range ...

price , i am not looking for some thing great just the basic , $50 or so would nice ...


A usable optic (bino's or spotting scope) for $50?

You might need to rethink what you need and why you need it.

Buy once, cry once.
5/2/2010 3:21:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
really i would just like to beable to see my groups with out walking down range ...

price , i am not looking for some thing great just the basic , $50 or so would nice ...


A usable optic (bino's or spotting scope) for $50?

You might need to rethink what you need and why you need it.

Buy once, cry once.


I have a cheapy pair of Simmons Binoc's in my range bag for this exact purpose. They're variable with a max power of 17X. Got 'em a Dick's for under $50 and they've performed adequately for many years given my rather narrow application . I use them solely for target inspection at ranges up to 50 yards (anything past 50 yards would best be accomplished with a spotting scope). They're small, light and they never leave my range bag. That last part is the key If you remove them from your range bag for another purpose, they won't be in there the next time you need them at the range; guaranteed. Don't try reason or logic on this one - just accept it - they would be in the bag. It's physics So...if we know that the binoc's will always be in the range bag because they'll never be used for any other purpose than the range, why spend money on good glass just to resolve a bunch of holes in a piece of paper?

On the other end of the spectrum, my wife is a bird enthusiast and we have very high-quality binoculars for that purpose. Suffice it to say, depending on the application, great glass can make a world of difference. For looking at tiny holes in paper and nothing more, anything of reasonable quality will do. MHO.
5/2/2010 3:46:14 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I have a cheapy pair of Simmons Binoc's in my range bag for this exact purpose. They're variable with a max power of 17X. Got 'em a Dick's for under $50 and they've performed adequately for many years given my rather narrow application . I use them solely for target inspection at ranges up to 50 yards (anything past 50 yards would best be accomplished with a spotting scope). They're small, light and they never leave my range bag. That last part is the key If you remove them from your range bag for another purpose, they won't be in there the next time you need them at the range; guaranteed. Don't try reason or logic on this one - just accept it - they would be in the bag. It's physics So...if we know that the binoc's will always be in the range bag because they'll never be used for any other purpose than the range, why spend money on good glass just to resolve a bunch of holes in a piece of paper?

On the other end of the spectrum, my wife is a bird enthusiast and we have very high-quality binoculars for that purpose. Suffice it to say, depending on the application, great glass can make a world of difference. For looking at tiny holes in paper and nothing more, anything of reasonable quality will do. MHO.


Parts is parts.  Oly is just as good.......  It is "only" for "range use".

Heard it too many times in my life.  I see this when Cabela's sells dozens of those POS Barska Spotting Scopes for ~$59-$79.  I laugh at the plastic lenses, plastic bodies held together with glue, and just awful tripod.  At least they are priced right.

I'm glad that you are happy with your items, but for me, if I cannot USE it, then the item does not get bought.

Buy the best that you can afford and if all you can afford is $50, then buy shoes to walk back and forth to the target, or save the $50 and add to it, so that you can buy something better in the future.
5/2/2010 7:49:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I have a cheapy pair of Simmons Binoc's in my range bag for this exact purpose. They're variable with a max power of 17X. Got 'em a Dick's for under $50 and they've performed adequately for many years given my rather narrow application . I use them solely for target inspection at ranges up to 50 yards (anything past 50 yards would best be accomplished with a spotting scope). They're small, light and they never leave my range bag. That last part is the key If you remove them from your range bag for another purpose, they won't be in there the next time you need them at the range; guaranteed. Don't try reason or logic on this one - just accept it - they would be in the bag. It's physics So...if we know that the binoc's will always be in the range bag because they'll never be used for any other purpose than the range, why spend money on good glass just to resolve a bunch of holes in a piece of paper?

On the other end of the spectrum, my wife is a bird enthusiast and we have very high-quality binoculars for that purpose. Suffice it to say, depending on the application, great glass can make a world of difference. For looking at tiny holes in paper and nothing more, anything of reasonable quality will do. MHO.


Parts is parts.  Oly is just as good.......  It is "only" for "range use".

Heard it too many times in my life.  I see this when Cabela's sells dozens of those POS Barska Spotting Scopes for ~$59-$79.  I laugh at the plastic lenses, plastic bodies held together with glue, and just awful tripod.  At least they are priced right.

I'm glad that you are happy with your items, but for me, if I cannot USE it, then the item does not get bought.

Buy the best that you can afford and if all you can afford is $50, then buy shoes to walk back and forth to the target, or save the $50 and add to it, so that you can buy something better in the future.




after more reseach i beleave you are right , i think i might have to rething my price range abit . there are a couple barska ending on ebay in a few days for abit under $100 , i think i'll wait and see how they pan out and do more reseach in the mean time .

5/2/2010 8:54:00 PM EDT
[#13]
barska blackhawk 20-60x60

$113 free shipping with the angled eye piece

$109 free shipping with the straight eye piece

I got the one with the angled eye piece, it's a fantastic spotting scope for the money, it can see bullet holes on black paper easily at 100 yards, and makes life easy when shooting out to 300 yard plates. The tripod it comes with is actually pretty decent as well.  This was the best value spotting scope I found when I was in your shoes.
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