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Posted: 5/18/2009 1:30:28 PM EDT
| What is the difference between the f revision ones and the ones before it? I am looking at an 552 that is not f revision. What is that one worth? |
| I have a 512 Rev F on a LaRue riser and love it. The holo sight is so quick to pick up it makes hitting the "x" a breeze. That said, I might part with it only because I'm adding a Redi-Mod to this setup and would like to drop the extra weight of this setup for a T-1 instead. You can IM me if interested. |
They are available I believe Been thinking about trying one out too.... You first then let me know
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it |
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Quoted: Quoted: And what might the XPS models be ?? Single transverse mounted battery... longer battery life... up to 600 hours now. http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/botach_2054_23848073 Longer than what? My Rev F 512 has a 1000 hour battery life... |
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it In the "What Parts Break in a Carbine Course" thread in the current last page 40 Pat Rogers a well known carbine instructor prefers mostly Aimpoints, there might be more details in those 40 pages if you have time to read all of it. What Parts Break in a Carbine Course? - thread link |
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it In the "What Parts Break in a Carbine Course" thread in the current last page 40 Pat Rogers a well known carbine instructor prefers mostly Aimpoints, there might be more details in those 40 pages if you have time to read all of it. What Parts Break in a Carbine Course? - thread link Hi ya Rudy I was reading a article by Pat Rogers just a few weeks ago on this subject! wich is OLD NEWS |
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And what might the XPS models be ?? Single transverse mounted battery... longer battery life... up to 600 hours now. http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/botach_2054_23848073 Longer than what? My Rev F 512 has a 1000 hour battery life... I really dont care about longer time I just want Guaranteed Time
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the EoTech XPS is still NOT shipping yet. Its being hyped big time, but a couple of weeks ago I gave up waiting and got a 516 model. Last time I checked, a week or two ago, you can find them advertised at many online vendors, but everyone said either, out of stock, back ordered or get in line now.
Troy seems to be doing the same thing with their TRX rails, I'm giving them another week on my 14 week back-order (they said it would be 6) before I cancel and punt to an MRF rail. |
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If your just an average shooter then get the Eotech if your demand is not needed. Aimpoint would be a smarter and better investment due to the battery life and yes they do have a model that uses one AA battery and last 80k hours. I like an optic without an automatic shutoff and a dial that is easy to use with the stroke of your hand instead of pushing buttons. Take a look at these videos for Aimpoint.
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it In the "What Parts Break in a Carbine Course" thread in the current last page 40 Pat Rogers a well known carbine instructor prefers mostly Aimpoints, there might be more details in those 40 pages if you have time to read all of it. What Parts Break in a Carbine Course? - thread link To me that is all anecdotal. I'll continue buying eotechs till im broke or run into these problems. I'm rough on my optics so I use the 512, because I've already broken glass twice once on both eotech and aimpoint and I still need it to work. I do have a T1 that I put on one of my comp guns. Its not too bad. I like having the ability to not worry about turning it back on if I forget to turn it off in the first place. the eotech just turns off after a certain amount of time instead of staying on. |
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If your just an average shooter then get the Eotech if your demand is not needed. Aimpoint would be a smarter and better investment due to the battery life and yes they do have a model that uses one AA battery and last 80k hours. I like an optic without an automatic shutoff and a dial that is easy to use with the stroke of your hand instead of pushing buttons. Take a look at these videos for Aimpoint. Aimpoint videos aimpoint has down sides too...less field of view, you can see the retical form the enemy side, less retical options, long battery life but in a SHTF situation harder to find, more expensive. i know die hard aimpoint guys and i know just as many die hard eotech guys. i have an eotech that i have had for years, it works great and has had the shit beat out of it, never drains batteries while its off...however i also had a huge fiasco with the 557 that took 6 times sendinign it back, and they could not fix it so i had to trade it out for a 552. |
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it In the "What Parts Break in a Carbine Course" thread in the current last page 40 Pat Rogers a well known carbine instructor prefers mostly Aimpoints, there might be more details in those 40 pages if you have time to read all of it. What Parts Break in a Carbine Course? - thread link To me that is all anecdotal. I'll continue buying eotechs till im broke or run into these problems. I'm rough on my optics so I use the 512, because I've already broken glass twice once on both eotech and aimpoint and I still need it to work. I do have a T1 that I put on one of my comp guns. Its not too bad. I like having the ability to not worry about turning it back on if I forget to turn it off in the first place. the eotech just turns off after a certain amount of time instead of staying on. Question Why buy eotechs until your broke? I would think a few would last ya
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If your just an average shooter then get the Eotech if your demand is not needed. Aimpoint would be a smarter and better investment due to the battery life and yes they do have a model that uses one AA battery and last 80k hours. I like an optic without an automatic shutoff and a dial that is easy to use with the stroke of your hand instead of pushing buttons. Take a look at these videos for Aimpoint. Aimpoint videos aimpoint has down sides too...less field of view, you can see the retical form the enemy side, less retical options, long battery life but in a SHTF situation harder to find, more expensive. i know die hard aimpoint guys and i know just as many die hard eotech guys. i have an eotech that i have had for years, it works great and has had the shit beat out of it, never drains batteries while its off...however i also had a huge fiasco with the 557 that took 6 times sendinign it back, and they could not fix it so i had to trade it out for a 552. less field of view ?? Harder to find?? I have both EOTECH & Aimpoint I shoot with both eyes open |
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If your just an average shooter then get the Eotech if your demand is not needed. Aimpoint would be a smarter and better investment due to the battery life and yes they do have a model that uses one AA battery and last 80k hours. I like an optic without an automatic shutoff and a dial that is easy to use with the stroke of your hand instead of pushing buttons. Take a look at these videos for Aimpoint. Aimpoint videos aimpoint has down sides too...less field of view, you can see the retical form the enemy side, less retical options, long battery life but in a SHTF situation harder to find, more expensive. i know die hard aimpoint guys and i know just as many die hard eotech guys. i have an eotech that i have had for years, it works great and has had the shit beat out of it, never drains batteries while its off...however i also had a huge fiasco with the 557 that took 6 times sendinign it back, and they could not fix it so i had to trade it out for a 552. less field of view ?? I have both EOTECH & Aimpoint I shoot with both eyes open what i mean is there is less around the edges...less like your looking thu a tube... look you prefer aimpoint, good for you, but there are guys out there who prefer eotech is all im saying, i think eotech has a few advantges, it also has some disadvatages too. |
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the EoTech XPS is still NOT shipping yet. Its being hyped big time, but a couple of weeks ago I gave up waiting and got a 516 model. Last time I checked, a week or two ago, you can find them advertised at many online vendors, but everyone said either, out of stock, back ordered or get in line now. Troy seems to be doing the same thing with their TRX rails, I'm giving them another week on my 14 week back-order (they said it would be 6) before I cancel and punt to an MRF rail. This model just might be the ticket |
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If your just an average shooter then get the Eotech if your demand is not needed. Aimpoint would be a smarter and better investment due to the battery life and yes they do have a model that uses one AA battery and last 80k hours. I like an optic without an automatic shutoff and a dial that is easy to use with the stroke of your hand instead of pushing buttons. Take a look at these videos for Aimpoint. Aimpoint videos aimpoint has down sides too...less field of view, you can see the retical form the enemy side, less retical options, long battery life but in a SHTF situation harder to find, more expensive. i know die hard aimpoint guys and i know just as many die hard eotech guys. i have an eotech that i have had for years, it works great and has had the shit beat out of it, never drains batteries while its off...however i also had a huge fiasco with the 557 that took 6 times sendinign it back, and they could not fix it so i had to trade it out for a 552. less field of view ?? I have both EOTECH & Aimpoint I shoot with both eyes open what i mean is there is less around the edges...less like your looking thu a tube... look you prefer aimpoint, good for you, but there are guys out there who prefer eotech is all im saying, i think eotech has a few advantges, it also has some disadvatages too. I like almost everything about Eotech Except my Drain problems wich happen time to time? and maybe the auto shut off? but I can live with it I like eotech because you dont need to by a mount I shoot the SAME with both optics! I bought both and tried both and For now my GO TO has a aimpoint on its rail Sorry to turn this into A VS E I just wanted the OP to know about the past reports Im just saying a FACT that Eotech has had its trouble in the past!! |
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I recently dumped my Aimpoint for an EOtech and I've been using Aimpoints for years. Even after years of practice with the Aimpoints, every time I used a rifle with an EOTech it was faster and more natural for me. I finally borrowed a buddy's 512 for a few weeks so I could compare them side to side over a period of time. Not only was the EOTech faster but it was much easier to hit moving targets, had a much improved FOV, and was easier to hit small or distant targets. I sold the ML2 to another shooter and bought a new 516 and I couldn't be happier with my decsion.
For my purpose speed and ease of use beats battery life any day. The EOTech's battery life is never going to be as good as the Aimpoint becuase it's a totally different animal. If some people prefer 5 years of battery life over speed, that's cool. Maybe some people actually prefer the old single dot, that fine too. I can even see that the battery life would be an advantatge for certain military applications. For me, I don't care about changing the batteries every few months. I think it's asinine for civilian shooters choose the Aimpoint and bash the EOTech based on battery life. Some of the LED keychain lights run 1000 hours on a single coin battery. Maybe we should all be using those instead of Surefires on our rifles. Hell, maybe we should also all trade in our trucks, SUVs and sports cars for a Prius. 
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the EoTech XPS is still NOT shipping yet. Its being hyped big time, but a couple of weeks ago I gave up waiting and got a 516 model. Last time I checked, a week or two ago, you can find them advertised at many online vendors, but everyone said either, out of stock, back ordered or get in line now. Troy seems to be doing the same thing with their TRX rails, I'm giving them another week on my 14 week back-order (they said it would be 6) before I cancel and punt to an MRF rail. That's correct, no one has them, AFAIK. Russ McCallister of L3 just confirmed that they won't start shipping until the beginning of July. PS. Can we move this to the Optics Forum so other users can find it? |
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Affirm...I've read what Rogers has written about the EOTech but it matters not to me. In my experience I've had not one issue with them & I've owned a few. I like both the EOTech & Aimpoint just the same. |
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WARPIG you havent heard all the problems ?? Battery Drain Falling off rails Crooked mounting Hell I found mine dead 3 times now Ask Pat Rogers if he has seen any problems I do like the Eotech just wish the bugs get worked out Any links to this info? Interested to read into it In the "What Parts Break in a Carbine Course" thread in the current last page 40 Pat Rogers a well known carbine instructor prefers mostly Aimpoints, there might be more details in those 40 pages if you have time to read all of it. What Parts Break in a Carbine Course? - thread link To me that is all anecdotal. I'll continue buying eotechs till im broke or run into these problems. I'm rough on my optics so I use the 512, because I've already broken glass twice once on both eotech and aimpoint and I still need it to work. I do have a T1 that I put on one of my comp guns. Its not too bad. I like having the ability to not worry about turning it back on if I forget to turn it off in the first place. the eotech just turns off after a certain amount of time instead of staying on. Question Why buy eotechs until your broke? I would think a few would last ya
The only problem is have more rifles than eotechs or aimpoints. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And what might the XPS models be ?? Single transverse mounted battery... longer battery life... up to 600 hours now. http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/botach_2054_23848073 Longer than what? My Rev F 512 has a 1000 hour battery life... you left it on for 125 days? I don't own one and I am asking a honest question. |
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eotech made in oct 2008, is that revision F? does it have a white "F" on the side? Ive spoken to numerous people about the whole rev. F thing and supposedly they quit putting the F on a few years back but they are still new versions,all eotechs that is.Ill get that email I got and post it here its from L3 communications. |
| Unless there is a difference between the civilian and military eotech other than the fact that we call them a Holo instead of an eotech. Just like we call a aimpoint a 68. I don't see an aimpoint being anymore reliable than an eotech. I had a Holo(eotech) on my M4 and that sight never failed me. So unless you are going to some hardcore carbine course that make the streets of baghdad look like a cake walk. I think the eotech is just as good as an aimpoint in every aspect. Both are good optics and you should be pleased with either one you choose. Anyway that's just my humble opinion. |
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From: jeremy green [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:50 PM To: Snider, Deb @ EOTECH Subject: EOTECH 512 A65 Hi,I just have a question about the eotech 512.In order for an eotech 512 to be a revision F model must it have the F marked on it like most models I see or can it not have the F and still be a revision F model?Ive been researching this question for days and have gotten different answers everywhere I go.Im ordering the 512 tomorrow and would just like to be sure I get the revision F model. Thanks alot, Jeremy From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: jeremy green <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 5:37:12 AM Subject: RE: EOTECH 512 A65 We stopped several years ago putting the F on the hood, look at the bottom of the unit for the manufacturing date. From: jeremy green [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:47 PM To: Snider, Deb @ EOTECH Subject: Re: EOTECH 512 A65 What should the manufacturing date be in order to be a rev. F version? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ... View Contact To:jeremy green <[email protected]> Anything after 2005. So anything after 2005 is a REV. F VERSION. |
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From: jeremy green [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 11:50 PM To: Snider, Deb @ EOTECH Subject: EOTECH 512 A65 Hi,I just have a question about the eotech 512.In order for an eotech 512 to be a revision F model must it have the F marked on it like most models I see or can it not have the F and still be a revision F model?Ive been researching this question for days and have gotten different answers everywhere I go.Im ordering the 512 tomorrow and would just like to be sure I get the revision F model. Thanks alot, Jeremy From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: jeremy green <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 5:37:12 AM Subject: RE: EOTECH 512 A65 We stopped several years ago putting the F on the hood, look at the bottom of the unit for the manufacturing date. From: jeremy green [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:47 PM To: Snider, Deb @ EOTECH Subject: Re: EOTECH 512 A65 What should the manufacturing date be in order to be a rev. F version? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ... View Contact To:jeremy green <[email protected]> Anything after 2005. So anything after 2005 is a REV. F VERSION. I've had a 512, 551 & 552...2006, 07 & 08, respectively, & they were all marked with a lil F on the lower rear left side. I don't think all of their 2005 & later manufacture dates are non-marked as the L3 rep has stated. |
| Warpig,your right about that because I searched around for a used eotech before I bought new and found quite a few online that were manufactured june 09 and the sellers showed me pics with the F on the hood.What gives,its hard to get straight answers now days lol. |
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