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2/20/2008 2:15:20 PM EDT
I've decided to get an Aimpoint Comp ML-3.  My question is...I have a Rock River Entry Tactical on order and I'd like to mount the Aimpoint on top of the tactical carry handle and I want to keep it as close to the top of the handle as possible.  Also when I mount  if it's too high I may just take off the carry handle and mount it to the flat top.  Will it affect the co-witness as well?  I'm new to AR's and tried searching but came up sort of empty.  Any thoughts or opinions?  thanks
2/20/2008 2:18:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Sell the "Tactical Carry Handle".

Go to LaRue's website and order you ML3 with LT-129 mount, you can thank me later.
2/20/2008 2:42:17 PM EDT
[#2]
You may want to see if you can trade your tactical carry handle for a flip sight before you ge the rifle and then take BigCraig up on his advice. If you got a low ring mount from LaRue, ADM or ARMS you should still be fine and I don't think it would be too high. If you are worried about it already I would ditch the TCH before you are stuck with it and mount the Aimpoint on your flat top.
2/20/2008 5:07:26 PM EDT
[#3]
I'll keep the tactical rail.  Even if I don't end up using it I don't mind having an option laying around.  If I went with a low mount like an American Defense AD-68L or a LaRue RasII LT152 and used it on top of the TCH and decided it was too high, do you think that same mount would be too low for me without the TCH and interfere with my front sight?  thanks
2/20/2008 6:08:52 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't like the low ring mounted directly to the upper. For me it is too low. I don't have another low mount laying around to take pictures of but I think you would be happier with the Aimpoint mounted on the TCH vs. directly on the flat top upper. Just my opinion though.
2/20/2008 6:34:41 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Sell the "Tactical Carry Handle".

Go to LaRue's website and order you ML3 with LT-129 mount, you can thank me later.


+1.  Hell, +100.
2/20/2008 6:48:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Why not just try to help the guy with the questions he has asked? Why not just tell him to ditch the RRA rifle and get a Colt? That is about as useful as telling him to go buy parts he doesn't have and didn't request information on.
2/21/2008 10:00:14 AM EDT
[#7]
I have the same RRA entry tactical with the same mounted Aimpoint ML3 on the TCH. This raised height makes it perfect for me to naturally raise the rifle to my arm pit and align with my target. When I mounted the Aimpoint directly onto the flat rail, it was just too low. Additionally, I like the option of having the TCH with its flip up sights whenever I need it. I can simply remove the scope. I would rather have this ability, then not have it if I mounted the Aimpoint directly onto the flat rail. Just one more opinion......

btw, the RRA was a great choice!!
2/21/2008 10:54:19 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I have the same RRA entry tactical with the same mounted Aimpoint ML3 on the TCH. This raised height makes it perfect for me to naturally raise the rifle to my arm pit and align with my target. When I mounted the Aimpoint directly onto the flat rail, it was just too low. Additionally, I like the option of having the TCH with its flip up sights whenever I need it. I can simply remove the scope. I would rather have this ability, then not have it if I mounted the Aimpoint directly onto the flat rail. Just one more opinion......

btw, the RRA was a great choice!!


No, do not do this.
2/21/2008 10:54:49 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Sell the "Tactical Carry Handle".

Go to LaRue's website and order you ML3 with LT-129 mount, you can thank me later.


Yes, yes, yes.  DO THIS.
2/21/2008 12:04:40 PM EDT
[#10]
My rifle also came with the tactical carry handle and I am planning on getting an aimpoint as well. I was also thinking of using this to mount the aimpoint.  As I understand it this was designed to use with the aimpoint so what is the big problem with this setup?  I have seen it advised agenst in other threads but I don't think anyone has ever offered a story from personal experiance nor have they stated what makes the setup no good.  As I see it you can mount the aimpoint and  have a BUIS all in the one mount  I already own, so what makes the other setups so much better?  Why should I spend the money?  
2/21/2008 12:50:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Hey Cougarfan.  I don't know why people don't like this setup.  I was wondering exactly what mount you went with? and could you show me a pic of your setup?  thanks alot.

Can someone tell me why this is not a good setup, instead of saying don't do it buy this?
2/21/2008 3:48:58 PM EDT
[#12]
I have never posted a picture on this site before, so I will give it a try.

The reason I like this setup is that everything else I tried could not get the aimpoint high enough for my taste. I am over 6'4", so perhaps it is just something someone taller appreciates, but I dont have to bring the gun up higher as i have with other configurations.

Personally, I like the fact if I have the gun away from home, I have both the iron sites as well as the aimpoint with me. If I dont want either one, I dont have to use them, but have them both.

I have been in federal law enforecement (Secret Service) for a few years and have seen this set up on a number of agents personal weapons. It seems to work for them too.

In the end, go with what works for you.
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2/21/2008 4:08:54 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks again Cougarfan.  I looked through an Aimpoint on top of the Tactical Handle at the dealer I ordered mine from.  Maybe it is a tall guy thing, I'm 6' 1".  I'll have to take another look at it tomorrow when I go pick up my Remington SPS Varmint rifle and see exactly what mount he was using.  Hopefully you can get that pic up.
2/21/2008 4:12:39 PM EDT
[#14]
The mount I used was a QD cantalever mount. It was alot cheaper than the Larue, but not the quality. It gave me the chance to see it I liked it before I invested alot of $$ in it.
2/22/2008 9:11:52 AM EDT
[#15]
I was thinking about why mounting a scope on the TCH on most black guns would be considered a bad idea by many. I realized most carry handles are large and slanted, making mounting anything on that rather cumbersome. Moving the scope away from the barrel also creates difficult sight angles. The RRA tactical handle is not like the Colt, for example. It is straight and low, making it nothing more than a sight riser. I could understand the reluctance to mount anything on the normal hand rail, but the RRA is not like these others and therefore (in my mind at least), not a bad option for mounting the Aimpoint ML3 on. Again, just one more opinion................
2/22/2008 10:12:18 AM EDT
[#16]
This is not a ML3 its a M2.  I have no problem with this set up.  I have two other Aimpoints (M2, ML2) mounted in a QRP with riser and ARMs mount with Riser.  These two others perfectly cowitness with my LMT BUIS.  The one pictured cowitnesses in the lower third of the scope.  I like this set up.  I measured the difference in height and it is approx 1/2 inch taller with the tac handle. Hope this helps

2/22/2008 12:25:38 PM EDT
[#17]
11287,

Thanks for the pic.  It looks good to me.  you find that the setup works well then?  I am still waiting for those ney sayers to tell us what is so bad about this setup....  Makes me wonder if they have a reason.  
2/22/2008 12:53:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks 11287 for the pic.  It looks great.  I handled one today to double check what he had for a mount.  He has the RRA Tactical Entry with the Burris red dot (similiar to the aimpoint) with the a.r.m.s throw lever ring mounted on the TCH.  Looked perfect
2/22/2008 1:23:03 PM EDT
[#19]
I would use about any Mount ! But NOT the RRA carry handle type!

I dont like a MOUNT on top of another MOUNT!

I do like the Larue canti mount
They lock on real good and the aimpoint aint in your face so you get a better View
Plus man does it reapeat the zero after taken off and on

2/22/2008 1:28:28 PM EDT
[#20]
The reason people dont like the RRA mount is that when compared to a Larue mount and seperate BUIS you lose the ability to mount NV or a magnifier behind the Aimpoint, you have to use the Aimpoint mount for lower 1/3 cowitness which is not as good as the Larue mount, you dont tget the repeat zero ability, you have two things bolted to the rail instead of just one mount, it weighs more with no added utility, and you cant get the Aimpoint into the cantilevered position, which some people prefer.

It will cost less to do the Aimpoint mount on your current handle.
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