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3/15/2007 9:08:57 PM EDT
For the sake of conversation, and money was not an issue, which would you choose between and Eotech and an ACOG and why would that be your choice?
3/15/2007 9:21:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.
3/15/2007 11:56:12 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.




you cant be serious with that remark.

acog and eothingy, comparing apples to oranges.

I must be a stubborn douche bag and a half.......


meat
3/16/2007 12:47:46 AM EDT
[#3]
< 50 yards EOTech has the advantage IMHO due to the speed of target acquisition and also you shouldn't need magnification to ID target.

Out to 100 they are perhaps on equal footing, with the advantage going to ACOG the greater the distance gets for both accuracy and target ID.

take this with a grain of salt though as I have only used an ACOG once, but I do own an EOTech 552.
3/16/2007 1:38:07 AM EDT
[#4]
I own both, and they are not even close to being comparable.

What do you expect to be doing with your weapon? Do you plan to do more close up shooting, say 100yd or less? if so, the eotech would be an excellent choice, and a bit less on the $ too.

If you want the ability to still do both eyes open shooting up close, but with a little magnification at distance, go with the ACOG.


Two completely different applications, with two completely different goals in mind.


Decide what you want to do with your rifle, then pick the optic that best suits that task.
3/16/2007 1:51:21 AM EDT
[#5]
Elcan DR Spector.  4X to tru 1X with the flip of a lever.  I use mine for 3 gun and it is the way to go for me.  I am also an Eotech fan, and if I was a door kicker that is probably what I would be using.

G45
3/16/2007 7:45:43 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
< 50 yards EOTech has the advantage IMHO due to the speed of target acquisition and also you shouldn't need magnification to ID target.

Out to 100 they are perhaps on equal footing, with the advantage going to ACOG the greater the distance gets for both accuracy and target ID.

take this with a grain of salt though as I have only used an ACOG once, but I do own an EOTech 552.


I would agree. I have both, and have carried both. I think this pretty much sums it up.
3/16/2007 8:13:58 AM EDT
[#7]
I as well have both, and the ACOG is great for target ID and being able to see rounds impact to adjust fire.  Go with an ACOG and Doctor piggy backed. I got to play with one of the Doctors the other day and was very impressed with it.  If it were on a rifle that I was using for home defense, Eotech; Anything else I would go with ACOG.
3/16/2007 8:18:55 AM EDT
[#8]
Two different animals.  

0-100 yards = EoTech

10 yards - Infinity = ACOG
3/16/2007 9:13:49 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.




you cant be serious with that remark.

acog and eothingy, comparing apples to oranges.

I must be a stubborn douche bag and a half.......


meat


An ACOG with a Doc. Red Dot and you've got it.

The ACOG costs over 1k, the EoTech costs around 400$, of course people are going to take the ACOG.
3/16/2007 9:24:02 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.


Hemi Cuda I used to think you were a putz, but now...hell...I'd even buy you a beer.

Just leave the AR10 at home, mkay?
3/16/2007 9:26:11 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.


+1




Mark.
3/16/2007 11:05:04 AM EDT
[#12]
ACOG

It doesn't seem to me like theres a real speed different between the two at close range - and anything 50+ yards there's no contest.  The ACOG is absolutely surgical.  

I don't know why people continue to argue for the EOtech having the upper hand in CQB.  When I got my ACOG I was expecting it to be even just a little awkward at across-the-room distances, but I was pleasantly surprised to find that not to be the case at all.  

The way I see it - if you can shell out the cash, get the Good Stuff.  It costs that much for a reason.  I sold my EOtech to cushion the financial blow from the ACOG.  Although I liked it a lot, I don't miss it.
3/16/2007 2:08:01 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Elcan DR Spector.  4X to tru 1X with the flip of a lever.  I use mine for 3 gun and it is the way to go for me.  I am also an Eotech fan, and if I was a door kicker that is probably what I would be using.

G45


Only difference being about $1,000.
3/16/2007 2:09:02 PM EDT
[#14]
ACOG no doubt
3/16/2007 2:15:32 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Would you be surprised if everyone on this forum said ACOG?

I mean seriously, only a stubborn douche bag would take an EoTech over an ACOG.


Hemi Cuda I used to think you were a putz, but now...hell...I'd even buy you a beer.

Just leave the AR10 at home, mkay?


I'll wear some lingerie

3/16/2007 3:03:15 PM EDT
[#16]
ACOG all the way, and I own both ACOG's and Eothingy's, hell I have an Aimpoint too.

ACOG--Is on my RECCE AR. (serious gun)
AimPoint--Is on my 10.5" SBR. (serious gun)
Eothingy--Is on my suppressed 9mm SBR. (range toy)
3/16/2007 3:43:46 PM EDT
[#17]
acog, without even blinking
3/16/2007 4:19:22 PM EDT
[#18]
I have/like Trijicon's Tripower much better than my friend's Eotechs @ similar ranges (under 100yds) And you don't have to worry about batteries & brightness settings unless your using a flashlight. Money is comparable.

I like my ACOGS better for longer ranges, but they cost twice as much.

3/16/2007 6:44:36 PM EDT
[#19]
IME:
If you go with the ACOG TA31 or TA31F, you really have to put the time into learning to use the BAC.  Some people can't use it at all but I would bet a majority have never learned to do it.  A great example would be me.  I first tried an ACOG late last year and I couldn't see how the hell it could be fast up close. My eye would want to constantly switch to the magnified view.  I shot better with my irons!
Then a light bulb went off and I started looking at the target only and then voila... there it was... the donut....I believe in the magic of BAC now.  I can switch between either views depending upon the range.  I don't have to carry my AAs for my EOTech 512 and I never need to turn it on. The only downside to using BAC is that the distance between my right eye and left eye to the target is different so the POI and POA are slightly off center. I just compensate by aiming a little to the left when shooting up close.
The ACOG really deserves all its accolades; it just takes time.
3/16/2007 9:45:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks for all the input guys.  I'm pretty new to the optics for an AR, but not to AR's.  I've used M16A2 in the Army and had a 203 on mine. I bought my 1st AR, a Bushy about 8 years ago. I currently have # 1, a 16" A2 Bushmaster, # 2, a 20" Rock River flat top upper on a DPMS lower A2 stock with a 4-16x50 mildot scope.  # 3 is partially built (waiting on the upper) is a DoubleStar and I have #'s 4 & 5 DoubleStar lowers brand new in the box.

Now, just waiting on the funds to complete them.....
3/17/2007 1:49:34 AM EDT
[#21]
hell even in my drugged out mind [surgery yesterday] i know to pick a acog
3/20/2007 9:14:38 PM EDT
[#22]
eotech is fast and fast is good, moving targets, and ill say they are good to 300m not for id but quick hits. acog is great for longrange, target ID and scouting an area. i would take the acog for the fact its a lot of money but in a real upclose and personal fight(where i usually seem to find myself) ill take my eotech. that being said ive never had to use an acog but ive played with them.
3/21/2007 4:01:47 AM EDT
[#23]
Eotech for anything under 100, ACOG for 50 and beyond. I love eotechs for any cqb
3/21/2007 7:28:07 AM EDT
[#24]
If you had to have one then ACOG all the way.   ACOGs make shooting so much more pleasurable for anything over 10 yards.  

Even if there is a chance you would have to shoot at less than 10 yards, you can still use the ACOG (with much practice).  I have an ACOG TA01NSN and a TLR2 laser for anything less than 10 yards
3/21/2007 10:34:08 AM EDT
[#25]
I have been sitting on the fence of this question for quite some time....


I guess that I am still there.


Later,

Badredfish
3/21/2007 11:00:14 AM EDT
[#26]
Different tool for different application. But, If I had to chose only one it would be a ACOG TA-11F.
3/21/2007 3:33:45 PM EDT
[#27]
+1 ACOG

I am not a fan of the Eotech and like the Aimpoints better but not by much.

of your choices ACOG all the way

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