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Posted: 4/22/2005 11:18:57 PM EDT
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Which of these 2 has the brighter red dot? I am really newbie to these style of optics. Recently I got to fiddle around with an EOtech, and was amazed at how bright it was. I could point the reticle towards the bright noon sky, and I could still see the dot and circle. And it gets bright here in FL! No wash out at all. I've only seen crappy low-budget dots in the past that were 100% worthless between the hours of 9am-6pm  How does the Aimpoint stack up to the EOtech? Is the dot every bit as visible at high noon? Even against lightly colored or very bright backgrounds? I want to get a high-end optic, but don't want something that cannot be easily seen in my FOV. |
 While it may seem I haven't gotten an answer, but created an Aimpoint/EOtech war The mere fact that people debate and argue this (in the past obviously from what I gather in this thread) means that they are both close enough. If they are close, given that I've seen an EOtech but not an Aimpoint, instantly tells me that neither will washout in the daytime. That is all I wanted to know. Oh man, now it is decision time...  EOtech is less money, but Aimpoint has 10-year warranty. One needs to be turned on, the other is always on. One mounts lower than the other........the comparisons go on and on and on....I wouldn't be comparing if I could afford both  Thanks for the replies |
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At one time I was in the same dilema as you, I picked the Aimpoint and I couldn't be happier with it. When the M3 is all over the place the M and M2 are most likely going to go down in price, I've already seen it start to happen. Go with the Aimpoint you won't regret it. ETA: the Aimpoint is extremely bright |
Unless I missed some new feature, they both run by batteries and have to be turned on. Now the EOTech turns itself OFF, while the Aimpoint needs to be turned off, if that's what you meant.
Don't fret, you didn't "create" anything... you just inspired some folks to (in a friendly and joking manner of course) pick up those ole' worn out sticks and go beat the crap out of that stiff, decayed, rotting equine corpse again. |
not sure about the ml2 but the m2 are one all the time. of course at a low nv setting but this low setting is what they base their battery life on. always on and still have an unbelievable battery life??? AIMPOINT RULES!!!!!
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M2s are not always on. They have an off setting on the adjustment dial. You could leave it on if you want to though. As for which one is brighter? Who cares, I have never used either sight at the maximum brightness setting anyway. |
acutually there is, the off is the lowerst night vision setting. so technically it is always on |
taken out of the aimpoint manual  get which ever on works out the best for you. my best friend shoots best with the eotech. i like the design of it and all but would rather spend the money on an aimpoint but if i ever run into one for cheap i plan on getting a eotech, just to put on top of my beowulf
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Great information, thank you very much. I thought I read it correctly when I learned that the Aimpoint is always on. 10 years of battery life on that setting is very impressive. Is the lowest setting "NV / off" useful at all if you aren't using night vision intesification, say in at night in a dark home? From what I gather, and from looking at some pictures of the reticles, the Aimpoints' looks more solid. Like it is a solid red dot painted there, whereas the EOtech is more grainy in nature. I guess it doesn't matter since the general concensus proclaims both of these optics as very bright. I know it is kind of nitpickng, as one person in this thread remarked about how top brightest doesn't matter. I feel it does. I like to be able to clearly see the reticle at all times without losing it in anyway, or even making it difficult to seperate from the background at anytime. When the sun is beating down at 12pm down here in FL, and you might have to sight against something might have a lightly colored, or very bright surface behind it cause the sun is shining down - it should be well painted by the reticle as to make sighting as carefree as possible. Reticle washout is terrible. If I can avoid it, I am willing to pay good money for a good optic that will get me past that. I think I am leaning EOtech simply because the EOtech is like a window pane vs. the Aimpoints tube nature. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems I would get a wider FOV with the EOtech. I'll start off with that. If I am not happy, I can always sell it and get the Aimpoint. It's not the end of the world (yet). |
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Ok, I'll rephrase it- The larger reticle is always brighter because of it's size. The EOTech is much brighter than the aimpoint- you probably won't need it all the way up. the aimpoint is a solid round red dot. The EOTech is made up of many tiny dots forming the ring around the one tiny dot in the middle- it's actually 1/3 MOA. You'd have to see them for yourself. The Aimpoint is a red dot sight where you place the dot over your target. The Eotech is a holographic sight- when you are focuses on your target, near or at a distance, the reticle is floating right in front of it. |
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since your having a hard time deciding you should find someone with both and compare the two. i will have both sights this weekend with me and will take pics for you if that helps any. the two would be aimpoint m2 and eotech 551 rev.f if you havent picked one already this should let you decide on which is brighter although its still not as accurate as if you see if for yourself |
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Quoted: taken out of the aimpoint manualhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/eklikewhoa/IMG_0156.jpg Who cares, that it is always on? This "ON" is at an NV-setting, I can't see with my bare eyes and who carrys always an NVG? On in a brightness, I can not see seems to be as good as off!!!! I think the EOTech has the advantage, that it starts with a single push on a button on a visible, brightness setting. But this discussion never ends...therefore take whatever you want, Aimpoint or EOTech...you will get an excellent optic and a reliable combat sight!!!!! |
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I think that if Eotech would or even could, they should send Aimpoint users an Eotech to play with and offer a credit for any Aimpoints they no longer want! Why doesn't Eotech rearrange the boot so that the HUD and reticle are up front and batteries are towards rear? Trijicon reflex-style maybe... Every discussion I see about the 551 versus 552 or 511 versus 512 usually has a few comments about the length of the AA models being a drawback in some cases because someone wants the reticle farther forward. How about moving the HUD forward and the batteries to the rear, putting the batteries in-line instead of side by side and using 3V CR123s instead? The Eothingamajig wouldn't hang over the sides of the upper like a fat lady on a park bench anymore either... |
If they would move the batteries to the back, and move the HUD up front, you would still have the length issue, the screen would just be hanging over the handguards, not the battery compartment. Just my $.02, of course  WIZZO |
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I've never had to use the Eotech at anything near its highest setting. I usually have to go up one or two from 'on' during bright daylight and down when I want to shoot at longer ranges for precision. Having the reticle up too high makes using the small dot more difficult. It's not an issue really. |
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