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Posted: 4/3/2005 2:32:49 PM EDT
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I'm shooting an A3/4 with an EOTech. I've got a RRA Dominator on order to move the optic a bit higher, but am wondering about other mounting options...DD, LaRue, etc. As I've fooled around with my EOTech, I seem to like it farther forward versus closer to the charging handle. 1. Is the EOTech better mounted further forward or rearward? Is it just a shooter perference one way or the other? 2. If you have a Dominator, what's your opinion of it? I've only heard positive comments. 3. Aside from the RRA Dominator, what are "elite" mounts that I should be looking at? I want to have the front sight in the bottom half or quarter of the EOTech window. [Posted PICS are greatly appreciated!] Thanks! |
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Andrew, I'm the same way with my EO. I like it farther forward. Here are some pics of it mounted on a LaRue EOtech mount sitting on a LaRue 13.2... It gets the EOtech up to the right spot to provide a great FOV and keep the irons in the lower 3rd. The Aimpoint 3X mag works just as good with the EO as it does with my Aimpoints. Notice how clear the pic is showing the reticle. Enjoy.     
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Joe - Great pics! I think I'm going to try out the Dominator. If I don't like the mouting position, I'm taking your recommendation for a LaRue ECOS-C and a TBD BUIS. By the way, are you using an Aimpoint AND an EOTech together?! If yes, why not an ACOG with magnification? Guess I'm still a FNG err noob... |
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Boom, Great pics! Bunches of questions: (1) Do the Aimpoint and EoTech work OK together when mounted on the LT EoTech mount directly on the flat top? (2) When mounted in this fashion, can you access the controls easily enough or is it a problem? (3) Does the Aimpoint center view line up OK with the Eotech's or is there a heigth mismatch? (4) Assuming it works well enough, is the image equally clear as what you posted here, and also does the EoTech's reticule completely fill up the view or is there enough area around it to make it easy to use? (5) Are there any eye relief issues with the magnifier? Looks like if the LT Eotech mount were mounted as far to the rear as possible, just in front of the BUIS, that the magnifier's occular lens would overhang the charging handle and if you added a couple of inches of eye relief to that setup, that you'd be pretty far back on the stock. I guess though that the LT EoTech mount could be mounted farther forward on the flat top to take that into account, but then the battery compartment would have to clear the handguards. |
Andrew, Good idea on the RRA mount, please let me know what you think. I have not had a chance to pick one up yet so would like to know how they work and if its a solid design. I do use the 3X mag behind the EO and my Aimpoints on my other rifles. It works well with the 4 red dot rifles I have. 3 Aimpoints and 1 EO. So far I really like it. If you get a chance go with the LaRue. One thing you don't see, there is another slot that you can use to move the EO even farther forward on the LaRue EO mount. I think its another 1/2" IIRC. I'm still looking for that scope we talked about. It will find a permnant home on that 20" rifle. 
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I don't see why they would not, you can move the EO even farther forward on the mount. I dont have a low LaRue Aimpoint mount but I'm sure they are the same height.
Yes no problem
Yes it centers very well. I think the EO is about 1/8" lower but you really dont see it thru the 3X mag. In my pic the reticle is not centered, that is my crappy camera skills not the view. The reticle is centered, when you look thru it.
Its even clearer. In fact the reticle loses most of its fuzzyness. Its hard to explain but the reticle becomes even clearer and yes there is lots of room around it. Remeber your target is also larger.
Remember you can move the EO farther forward on the mount. You dont have to move the mount forward just move the EO. The setup works great, I had no real issues with it, I can get 2 fingers between my nose and the CH. I shoot all my rilfes this way, the eye relief was not an issue with me. |
Thanx. After looking at it more there's still a problem using the rear pad of the LT EoTech mount to mount the magnifier. In your pics, it looks like you're using a LT Aimpoint mount to mount the mag, but that's attached directly to the rail. So to use it with a BUIS you'd have a pretty crowded rail: BUIS, then the magnifier mount , then the dual-padded Eotech mount. The rear pad of the EoTech mount wouldn't be used in that application. If you tried to use it though, then the mag would be the 1/8" + whatever the elevation of the pad is higher than the Eotech. I can't imagine this working, plus access to controls would appear to be cramped. LT should come up with an ultra-low magnifier mount compatible with their EoTech mount so folks can use the Aimpoint magnifier with their 51x/55x series Eotechs. This would allow mounting the mag on the rear pad. While they're at it, it might be nice if they would increase the separation between the front and rear pads another slot or two to allow better control access. That might screw it up though for NV usage. Or Eotech should come up with a backward compatible magnifier. That's the real answer. I'm just bitching. 
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They already do. Heres a pic with a LaRue PVS 14 mount IIRC. And LaRue also makes a low Aimpoint mount that fits on the pad. Pic from C4iGrant  This is the pic I was looking for, this was a proto several months back. Pic belongs to C4iGrant also. The LaRue low mount is a standard item now. If you notice, you can still move the EO forward another 1/2". 
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Ahhhh......... That's exactly what I was thinking of. |
Agree. I sent back to the allen screw as I can lock it down tighter. C4 |
I lock the LaRue down so tight I may not be able to remove it with one hand if my other hand gets injured. I never carry a allen wrench, but I always have a nickle or quarter on me. Its one more step I take to be sure I can get rid of the optic if I have to. The allen is a good idea, but your stuck if your mount gets damaged or you are weak from blood loss and don't have the power to remove it via the QD. Its kind of stupid, but Murphy is always on your shoulder. |
I've got an ARMS that is that tight, but the LaRue doesn't need to be that tight. You virtually defeat the purpose of having a QD mount, and are back to using a quarter. Might as well just buy a spacer instead of the LaRue. My $0.02 Grant - maybe you can comment on how tight the LaRue QR's should be. I don't have mine all that tight. |
The LT levers should be tight (where it takes some effort to open). If Boom wants to lock'em down then so be it!  C4 |
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