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10/3/2003 6:34:15 PM EDT
Just curious what optics are used on SPR,s the one I saw in afghanistan had a M3 on it. Im building my SPR and im trying to get as close as posible to having the proper optics without having to spend a $1000 plus. any advice/help will be appreciated.
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10/3/2003 6:52:20 PM EDT
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Just curious what optics are used on SPR,s the one I saw in afghanistan had a M3 on it. Im building my SPR and im trying to get as close as posible to having the proper optics without having to spend a $1000 plus. any advice/help will be appreciated.
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FREE:

I think the milspec ones specifically call for a Leupold TS30 which is essentially a M3LR 3x9 Illuminated reticle scope......

MSTN has covered this in one of his SPR threads in the EE IIRC.......

He even has a pic of a 100%, or damn close, SPR upper complete with optics. [:P]

I'll see if I can find the link.

Ed
10/3/2003 7:04:07 PM EDT
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Thanks,
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Just curious what optics are used on SPR,s the one I saw in afghanistan had a M3 on it. Im building my SPR and im trying to get as close as posible to having the proper optics without having to spend a $1000 plus. any advice/help will be appreciated.
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FREE:

I think the milspec ones specifically call for a Leupold TS30 which is essentially a M3LR 3x9 Illuminated reticle scope......

MSTN has covered this in one of his SPR threads in the EE IIRC.......

He even has a pic of a 100%, or damn close, SPR upper complete with optics. [:P]

I'll see if I can find the link.

Ed
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10/3/2003 7:13:03 PM EDT
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[url=http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=134&t=141314&w=searchPop]MSTN Porn[/url]

[:p]

In the MSTN Industry forum he just posted the spec of each SPR military model.  The older ones were TS30's the newer ones are TS30A2's...

These are both, neither, civilian models....though they are promising to bring them out.

Ed
10/3/2003 7:15:52 PM EDT
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TS30A2

[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=7171[/img]
[size=1][i]Photo Courtesy of MSTN[/size=1][/i]
10/3/2003 7:17:51 PM EDT
[#5]
And how much cash does that beast cost??
THanks,
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TS30A2

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10/3/2003 7:23:13 PM EDT
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To the gov't?  Probably $4.99....

to us?  Probably $800-$900......[whacko]

Wes would know for sure....at the moment they are unavailable to us without intent to mount on a gov't weapon, which you may be doing -- but not me. [V]

10/3/2003 7:29:47 PM EDT
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Well it looks like a M3 will be in my future for my SPR. thanks  FREE


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To the gov't?  Probably $4.99....

to us?  Probably $800-$900......[whacko]

Wes would know for sure....at the moment they are unavailable to us without intent to mount on a gov't weapon, which you may be doing -- but not me. [V]

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10/3/2003 7:32:51 PM EDT
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My bad I was looking duplex.......a new one is around $750.....

I found it cheaper than $750, but the site was sketchy......[:D]
10/3/2003 7:41:47 PM EDT
[#9]
Well his has the mil-dot which is what I want Im going to research it more really I just want a leopuold scope with mildot,eye relife focus and a decent magnification, there is no way I can build an exact SPR due to the unavalibilty of the scope. But there is one thing all the SPR,s have the ops suppressor but the 2 I saw in Afghanistan used the knights suppresor..oh well as long as mine looks cool i'll be happy it willbe a start.Now if my money will get here so I can start the SPR journey!!
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10/4/2003 1:55:46 AM EDT
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[img]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=14087[/img]

M3, good enough for me...
10/4/2003 8:05:40 AM EDT
[#11]
Early scopes used the 3.5-10X LR M3 Mildot and later scopes were the TS30.  I believe both had illuminated reticles.
10/4/2003 4:28:41 PM EDT
[#12]
So how much does one cost??
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[url]http://photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=14087[/url]

M3, good enough for me...
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10/5/2003 1:12:38 AM EDT
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I think I got mine for around $650 give or take, from the EE board.  They pop up for sale from time to time...
10/5/2003 3:32:30 PM EDT
[#14]
I paid $775 for a regular mildot. About a week later I saw an ad for SWFA and they bumped theirs up about $50 more. Then a month or so later I seen the same ad and the price was back down to $775 for the same scope.
10/6/2003 11:07:38 AM EDT
[#15]
Check out the prices at [url]www.premierreticles.com[/url] before ordering.  I don't know how they do it, but they have some awesome pricing on Leupolds!
10/7/2003 5:00:00 AM EDT
[#16]
JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD THE SPR SCOPE ISSUE FIGURED OUT:

NIGHTFORCE IS WORKING ON AN
"NXS EXTREME" VERSION FOR SOME NAVY BOYZ. SPECS I PRESENTLY HAVE:

2.2 X - 9.5 X

30MM TUBE

26 MM OBJECTIVE, I.E., STRAIGHT TUBE

3.25" EYE RELIEF [PERFECT FOR M4A1 UPPER MOUNTING]

48' FIELD OF VIEW AT 100 YD AT 2.2 X

10" LONG, UNDER ONE LB IN WEIGHT

ILLUMINATED RETICLE

NIGHT VISION CAPABLE

MORE WAY COOL FEATURES I CAN'T EVEN RECALL.

PRICE UNKNOWN

CIVILIAN MARKET DELIVERY UNKNOWN

IF IT IS ANYTHING LIKE THE REST OF THE NIGHTFORCE LINE, IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE. AND WORTH IT.

WES GRANT
[URL]MSTN.BIZ[/URL]
10/7/2003 7:15:52 AM EDT
[#17]
Wonder if Nightforce will take a kidney in trade?
10/10/2003 12:59:18 PM EDT
[#18]
Well I bought a  Leupold M3 LR and im mounting it on a douglas barreled colt upper with the KAC FF RAS Im going to have to get some cheap rings as the scope and upper taped out my $$$ and I need a harris bipod anyone have one cheap???
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10/11/2003 12:40:48 AM EDT
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Free, no money saving tip here but when you get some more $$$, I recommend you do what I did.  I got mine from MSTN, then I had them add the ARMS #32 QD mount, and a Pod Lock.  It was a BRM-S as recommended by Wes.  I thought it was going to be too short, but it wasn't.  The pod lock handle is AWESOME, and I love the QD of the #32.
10/11/2003 1:02:47 PM EDT
[#20]
i bought the 3.5 to 15 NXS Nightforce with the 50mm objective this spring. it's overkill on my AR, but it is so sweet. when  last spoke to nightforce, they said they were working on a scope for close quaters. it's good to see nightforce developing new products and to know that the boys that need them are getting them first.
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