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Posted: 4/20/2003 6:31:15 PM EDT
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Convince this new guy to AR's that ACOG's are worth the money. Please give me some reasons to lay down so much dough for an optic. Thanks Rog |
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Other than they are remarkably clear, bright and as effective as engineered, the weapon on which it's mounted is liable to be destroyed (by accident, abuse, driven over by a truck, etc.) before the scope suffers disabling damage. In the world of expensive scopes, ACOGs really are a bargain and probably the best in their intended roles. In view of that specialized units can get anything they want, they choose ACOGs over other optics, this is proof enough for me. Trijicon hardly touts its products on their web site, probably because it doesn't have to. |
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Hi ya Duffy...How's GJ's mount holding out for ya with the O2000? I also picked up the Spec-War low profile mount as well a few weeks back and I'm very impressed! Getting back to the topic....Aside to what Duffy stated (which I agree), these scopes are virtually indestructible (rugged as hell!) Add to all these points is their lightweight and you have the best bang for the buck!! Vic |
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Hey Victor! I had a chance to buy another Optima 2000 with the mount so I retired the mount GJ made, it's a little taller than the one from specwargear but I'm happy with it. [img]www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid44/p8fc5c89af79f7f6b2e2810efa6869ca1/fcdeaa71.jpg[/img] RogerC you should see through a few to decide, pictures and discussions don't do them justice and seeing is believing. I'd get a TA31 or TA11, both can be mounted on a carry handle or a flat top with the ARMS 19s or Trijicon TA51 flat top adapter. Best case of couse is get an ACOG for each rifle so you don't have to swap and rezero every time. |
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Roger it's an Optima 2000, a tiny red dot sight that was marketed by Tasco but now by another company. You can get the mount from [url]www.specwargear.com[/url], a year ago nobody had one and people were making their own. It was almost 2 years between my first ACOG (TA01NSN) and the newest addition just a few days ago, this time a TA11, I think I'm fairly well covered in the short range optics department [:d] [img]www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p8f05806a3bcc9e1e667a0cd04a1d6852/fc4dcaef.jpg[/img] The light is a vernerable SureFire P6, flash light mount and backup iron sight are by KAC, the fore end is also KAC, a RAS II. I got all of the accessories from Wes Grant at [url]www.msnt.biz[/url], including the RAS M5, ARMS 19s and another KAC 300M backup iron sight for the 20" barreled rifle. He's one of the most knowledgable people on this board, MSTN's customer service is awesome [:)] |
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Quoted: What are the red or yellow "bands" or strips I see in some of the pictures in another thread? They are on top of the ACOG. This? It's the fiberoptic tube [img]http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nKwAAAOYNiwL9CO8aSKk67pmDNkqNLrDAISKgFejVVQNy2TH3vcYETKNNAGz9kXcanv73fzLuLbErVCHwGdLxnA[/img] |
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Like xm777 said, it gathers available light (sun light, man made light, etc) to illuminate the reticle. In darkness where ambient light is too dim, the reticle is lit by the tritium lamp. On a sunny day it's so bright it's like an Aimpoint with its light intensity turned all the way up, it's a trip to behold. Unlike so many other cute and funky "tactical" crap that are nothing more than gadgets that probably won't stand up to abuse in the field, ACOG innovations really work and are as soldier-proof or Marine-proof as they come (professionals on this board such as Kevin B, 3rdtk, coldblue, Wes and many others can better tell us about this). [img]www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/pae3bfc0c94b7af529b67fcb656142675/fc4c1f9f.jpg[/img] |
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Quoted: Which models are preferable? I have a BM A2, and soon will have a RRA M4gery. What are the best ways to mount an ACOG? Thanks For the M4gery you can mount directly to the flattop with one of the Trijicon thumbscew mounts (TA51 for full-size, TA60 for compact) or use the ARMS#19S throw-lever (same as TA51 except for the attachment). Size is less of an issue here and the full-size are good. TA47 (2x) and TA11 (3.5x) have more generous eye relief than the TA50 (3x) and TA31 (4x) if you're concerned about that. Reticle is personal preference, but some people have trouble seeing the amber ones. Dot/donut is fastest but harder to be precise. Cheveron/crosshair is easiest to be precise but a little slower. Triangle is a compromise, easier to see quickly than the chevron/crosshair, but still has a defined point for precision. [red]edited to fix technical info on ACOG (you accidentally wrote the TA31 was 2X). Hope you dont mind![/red] |
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