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1/11/2003 7:09:51 PM EDT
i have a mini-14 ranch rifle.. and ive been looking to put a sight on it.. i have the rings... i want to put a aimpoint sight on it..

is it difficult?

and what kind of sight do you recommend.. i usually just take my gun to the range.. no hunting
1/11/2003 7:29:02 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, the factory Rings are usually 1".  I'm not sure of the tube size for that aim point (30mm) was suggested by an associate.  If you got 30mm rings, positioning might be a problem.  Ring height is not an issue, just get the right hight rings.  

If finding 30mm rings or putting other tube sized devices on, I saw a product that puts a Weaver rail on the Mini using the factory receiver mounts.  So mounting a sight to it is no problem.  Brownells had one in their catalog when I was thumbing through.

Another option is to put a forward mount.  It goes where the handguard is.  I don't know who has them, but this was suggested.
1/12/2003 12:00:23 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Well, the factory Rings are usually 1".  I'm not sure of the tube size for that aim point (30mm) was suggested by an associate.  If you got 30mm rings, positioning might be a problem.  Ring height is not an issue, just get the right hight rings.  

If finding 30mm rings or putting other tube sized devices on, I saw a product that puts a Weaver rail on the Mini using the factory receiver mounts.  So mounting a sight to it is no problem.  Brownells had one in their catalog when I was thumbing through.

Another option is to put a forward mount.  It goes where the handguard is.  I don't know who has them, but this was suggested.
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hrm.. so where can i buy like a whole kit for? is there any way i can put a rail on the mini?
1/12/2003 5:09:45 AM EDT
[#3]
I thought the ranch rifle had a rail on it, or is it just a mount?

-- Chuck
1/12/2003 8:04:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Chuck:

The Ranch Rifle I had, before I gave up on it, had only four small recesses for Ruger rings to be screwed onto the receiver. I bought a rail from Brownells which fit the recesses and allowed the attachment of other rings or accessories to the rifle. Never could get a Reflex II to zero with that setup, so I sold it to someone who liked it better than I did, and bought another AR.
1/12/2003 9:52:42 AM EDT
[#5]
May I offer the following suggestion--->[url]http://www.ultimak.com/[/url]
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[img]http://www.ultimak.com/gallery/m4multiflat2.jpg[/img]

Regards,
Gary
1/12/2003 10:44:04 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
May I offer the following suggestion--->[url]http://www.ultimak.com/[/url]
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[url]http://www.ultimak.com/gallery/m4multiflat2.jpg[/url]

Regards,
Gary
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awesome!.. one question do you have any idea if its a pain to install or not...?
1/12/2003 11:30:52 AM EDT
[#7]
check out

http://www.perfectunion.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3019
1/12/2003 11:36:00 AM EDT
[#8]
In addition to [b]LastDefender's[/b] suggestion (which is a very good one, btw), in the Brownells' catalog, there is a weaver rail which clamps onto the factory ring mounts.
1/12/2003 11:59:18 AM EDT
[#9]
[image]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=3621[/image]

Side mount Weaver with see through for iron sights.  No, drilling!  Approx. $69 any online any major parts retailer Sportsmansguide, Cheaperthandirt, etc.
1/12/2003 12:13:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:

awesome!.. one question do you have any idea if its a pain to install or not...?
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Here is another view of the mount.  It says no gunsmithing required....yeah I know..we've all heard that before haven't we?
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[img]http://www.ultimak.com/products/M4.jpg[/img]
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I had mine installed on my AK and it was done at the time of the build.  I was told by Derek at AZEX that it was very simple to install.

Regards,
Gary
1/12/2003 3:10:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
[image]http://photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=3621[/image]

Side mount Weaver with see through for iron sights.  No, drilling!  Approx. $69 any online any major parts retailer Sportsmansguide, Cheaperthandirt, etc.
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Pic doesn't work for me, but if it's the mount made by B-square, LEAVE IT ALONE, IT'S A POS!!!!
1/13/2003 8:39:31 AM EDT
[#12]
I made a weaver mount for my Mini-14 from a piece of scrap alum.
[img]http://users.rcn.com/bcrane1/Mini-14-2.JPG[/img]
1/13/2003 11:48:39 AM EDT
[#13]
LastDefender, thank you!

I have a Mini that was just sitting in the safe.  With that link I believe you just gave it a new life.

Joe
1/14/2003 1:01:36 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:

awesome!.. one question do you have any idea if its a pain to install or not...?
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Here is another view of the mount.  It says no gunsmithing required....yeah I know..we've all heard that before haven't we?
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[url]http://www.ultimak.com/products/M4.jpg[/url]
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I had mine installed on my AK and it was done at the time of the build.  I was told by Derek at AZEX that it was very simple to install.

Regards,
Gary
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no gun smithing... the part where the rail goes has to come off doesnt it?
1/14/2003 3:41:34 AM EDT
[#15]
joozy,

Yes it does.  The rail mount replaces the upper hand guard.


Joe,

You are most welcome.  For Mini owners considering a red dot sight application, I feel this mount is the way to go.

Regards,
Gary
1/14/2003 9:58:21 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
joozy,

Yes it does.  The rail mount replaces the upper hand guard.


Joe,

You are most welcome.  For Mini owners considering a red dot sight application, I feel this mount is the way to go.

Regards,
Gary
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how simple would it to remove the upper hand guard?
1/15/2003 11:01:44 PM EDT
[#17]
anyone?
1/15/2003 11:23:49 PM EDT
[#18]
VERY easy. You take it off when you clean the gun. It just snaps on. This rail looks like the best idea. Hell I mite evey buy a Mini if it have one on it.

Just kidding. Had a Mini. Now I have several AR's.
1/16/2003 3:15:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
VERY easy. You take it off when you clean the gun. It just snaps on. This rail looks like the best idea. Hell I mite evey buy a Mini if it have one on it.

Just kidding. Had a Mini. Now I have several AR's.
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so i can just pull it off without removing any screws?
1/16/2003 6:44:58 PM EDT
[#20]
The factory handguard cover is a snap on, you just pull up on it.
1/16/2003 11:24:23 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
The factory handguard cover is a snap on, you just pull up on it.
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w00t.. so how about the rail addon... screws or what?
1/17/2003 4:03:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Looks to me like the Scout mount replaces both the handguard and the top part of the gas block.
You till need a screwdriver or cleaning rod and a proper sized allen wrench. Be careful, there is a samll stainless steel bushing that connects the gas block (underside where the front swivel is) to the barrel. DO NOT LOSE THIS PART. With this part the Mini-14 is very reliable. With out it, it won't be worth a shit.
1/20/2003 12:43:23 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Looks to me like the Scout mount replaces both the handguard and the top part of the gas block.
You till need a screwdriver or cleaning rod and a proper sized allen wrench. Be careful, there is a samll stainless steel bushing that connects the gas block (underside where the front swivel is) to the barrel. DO NOT LOSE THIS PART. With this part the Mini-14 is very reliable. With out it, it won't be worth a shit.
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well im a gun rookie, and i have never taken apart my mini...

think it would be hard to do?
1/21/2003 4:30:16 PM EDT
[#24]
anyone? :(
1/22/2003 11:15:50 AM EDT
[#25]
easily done.  Just have the right tools.  A nice big table to work on.  A vise, rifle rest, or a friend to help hold the rifle.  Be comfortable and take your time.  Should take about 10-20 minutes.  

Walla!

It's not rocket science.  You won't break anything.

Joe

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